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      2 hours ago

      libs be believing dem politicans lip service when they never do anything about it, but the one time their politician says something and actually does it, they don’t believe it.

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      8 hours ago

      FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US”. Besides marginal sympathy for some presidents or over the top ridiculous facts, US politics is not that visible or interesting here.

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        Republicans just convinced Europe that the USA cannot be trusted anymore

        FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US”.

        What?

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          I doubt that US extortion will be reversed in any future DNC election victory. Only antagonism, and resulting colapse of US, which has yet to be manifested, will result in reversal.

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            You literally just said that it was because of Republicans that the EU soured on the US and now you’re telling me that in the EU you don’t look at which party is in charge but at the US as a whole. Do you not see how these statements are contradictory?

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              7 hours ago

              There is no contradiction. The relationship is not worse because republicans are in charge but because of what they decided.

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                Ok? The significance of the clip I posted was not that it was Biden saying it but what he said he would do (and very likely did). Why did that prompt you say, “FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US?””

                The reason I posted that clip was to establish the reason why I believe the US blew up the pipeline. Yes, it happens to be Biden in that clip, but you’re the one who started talking about distinguishing between Trump and Biden and then about not distinguishing between Trump and Biden. I’m just talking about the US.

                The only thing I can think of is that you’re trying to preemptively shift the NordStream thing away from Biden and onto the US in general as a way of deflecting blame from Biden. But again, I just brought it up to establish US policy on NordStream, not specifically to bash Biden. If it’s not that, then I just straight up don’t understand you at all.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what. Do you know or care about who is in charge in the EU?

                  Current US politics, that happens to be Trump’s, is hostile to us and it is alienating the European sympathies. There will be a little nuance in EU response to Trump’s tariff to damage red states more than blue states, but for most people it will be a big f-off to US as a whole.

                  About the Nordstream I don’t know what to believe because that sabotage was very convenient for every part, also within the EU, and I’d rather have no opinion than a wrong one.

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                    Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what.

                    Why did you feel the need to say that you don’t care about internal US politics when I didn’t say shit about internal US politics?

                    All I did was post a clip of the US president promising that he’ll stop NordStream if Russia invaded Ukraine, despite not having the legal authority to do so. Then, of course, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the NordStream pipeline mysteriously got stopped (could be anyone, really!)

                    because that sabotage was very convenient for every party

                    It certainly wasn’t convenient for Russia or Germany.

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        Bullshit. German politics is riddled with the same talking points as the US. Just today i read a german article talking about a “german roe v wade”

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          7 hours ago

          Of course, also in the EU there are far right groups like ECR and Patriots. It doesn’t mean that they rule though.

          BTW, I struggle to imagine Germans discussing certain topics using American terms.