• czech@kbin.social
    30·
    1 year ago

    I had been off Linux for a few years but recently returned to arch. I didnt feel like mucking around with everything from scratch so I tried the included install script. Next thing I knew I was in a full xfce environment with everything working out of the box.

    If arch can drop you in a full DE of your choosing, from an install script, what is the point of these other options? Genuinely wondering what’s going on with them and if I should check them out.

    • RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml
      131·
      1 year ago

      These other arch distros usually come with pre-compiled kernels with special options for different platforms, repos with different package versions to offer some level of stability, custom scripts to manage services and updating, and their own config files for various things. It’s pretty much what you do with regular arch but someone else is doing most of it for you.

      • src@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        So they’re just desktop environment reskins? With sons basic config files changed? What’s the point? You can download some packages and files any time from normal Arch for the same outcome.

    • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      I plan to go these route but to also bring in the Garuda repos and some tweaks they make. I am running Garuda right now and it works really well for gaming and I like some of their scripts, like garuda-update

    • SunRed@discuss.tchncs.de
      2·
      1 year ago

      Even if I don’t use this distro and just use plain Arch myself, I know that CachyOS is a bit more special as it at least compiles the arch repo packages for a newer x86 target and with additional compiler optimizations again that improves performance on newer CPUs. You can achieve the same on an Arch system with the wonderful ALHP project I use on one system but Cachy certainly makes this more accessible.

    • Acid@startrek.websiteEnglish
      105·
      1 year ago

      I think only endeavour and Manjaro still hold any use of the arch based distros.

      Endeavour generally has nice tools and is pretty much what you’d do with the install script so it just saves a few steps.

      Manjaro because it’s a gateway into learning arch for better or worse.

      But other than those two I don’t see the point of any other arch distros other than to be made for the sake of it.

      (I forgot steam os 3, but that’s a different topic)

      • Ghost@lemmy.ml
        51·
        1 year ago

        https://github.com/arindas/manjarno

        https://www.hadet.dev/Manjaro-Bad/

        Manjaro also has a “rolling release” model that isn’t actually fully rolling release. They hold back packages for a few weeks which in return has almost always destroyed the AUR for not only manjaro users but Arch users.

        They lie about it being fully rolling. Not just that they have forgotten to sign their signature keys multiple times before releasing big updates.

        Sure it’s an easier Arch for “beginners” but I’d say it’s easier to just install arch on a VM if you really want to learn and use arch that bad a VM is the best way.

        Pure Arch is better than Manjaro. Hell I hate Ubuntu but I’d rather use that over Manjaro

        • Acid@startrek.websiteEnglish
          24·
          1 year ago

          You know that’s not a Manjaro problem that’s a user problem, you’re specifically warned that AUR compatibility is not guaranteed with Manjaro https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository

          But people often ignore this and then complain that Manjaro isn’t stable.

          And yes Manjaro is fully rolling just because they delay packages a week doesn’t stop it being rolling, that’s like calling tumbleweed not a rolling release?

          I’m not arguing that Manjaro is better or worse than Arch just that if you use it as intended it functions correctly and is a good way to learn Linux and Arch.

    • priapus@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      1 year ago

      Cachy uses it’s own repos with optimized packages to improve performance, along with an alternative scheduler by default.

      Exodia seems to be a batteries included option for cybersecurity, including many tools used for securing systems and pentesting.

      Xero offers a customized Plasma interface with some available preset themes.

  • Reva@startrek.websiteEnglish
    112·
    1 year ago

    Too many distributions, not enough desktop environments. Distributions don’t really vary that much other than how they’re installed, what the release model and what the package manager is.

    What really matters is what you run on it, but for some reason people insist on “distro-hopping” and not on “desktop-hopping”.

    • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
      5·
      1 year ago

      I agree. Some distributions are truely different distributions of Linux. But those are different distributions of desktop environment. They are not distributing Linux itself any differently, and having to reinstall your base OS for this seems like a waste.

      For user friendliness, it would be nice if those “desktop environment distributions” were instead available as packages. Like I can do “pacman -S [your desktop env package]” and it sets up the desktop environment with all its configurations. It should be much easier to do this way, for both developers and users.

      • Reva@startrek.websiteEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Why? There’s not many that actually do unique things. KDE/GNOME are the big ones, then plenty of macOS clones without much substance (i. e. Cutefish, Pantheon), the lightweighter Windows clones that all somewhat work the same (Xfce, LXQt, MATE, Liri), and that was basically it. They all do the same thing Windows or macOS do, featuring the same design choices and look and feel; oh look, a full-size taskbar with a clock in the right corner and a start menu in the left corner! Riveting.

        The only ones that really have something unique going for them are Trinity, WMaker/GNUstep, Enlightenment/Moksha, CDE, EMWM and maybe Sugar. You’ll notice that they’re not exactly the most popular or well supported ones.

        Where’s really creative and innovative ones like ROX used to be? Where’s the funky 3D desktop environments? Where’s ones with completely new control schemes like a radial menu or a modern take on iconification? Where’s dockapps? Where’s innovation?

  • I need NOS@lemm.ee
    7·
    1 year ago

    Is this GNOME in your screenshot? The task bar at the bottom looks great. How you make it look like that?

    • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml
      21·
      1 year ago

      If you don’t want the themed desktop (KDE) then Garuda KDE lite is great. They also offer other desktop environments that I also think is without the skin

    • SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      This is what I’m using the last year, really enjoying it. Most stuff does just work, Proton installed by default, haven’t had trouble running nearly anything I’ve wanted to play.

  • gerdesj@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    Don’t forget System Rescue - https://www.system-rescue.org/

    Formally Gentoo based. Ideal for testing virty infrastructure, fixing systems, recovering data of broken systems and resetting passwords on Windows. You can of course use it to install Arch.

  • Danileonis @lemmy.ml
    31·
    1 year ago

    I just would love to see more ditros focused on a single DE, making a unique user experience.

  • priapus@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    1 year ago

    I’ve been keeping tabs on Cachy for a while. I’d love to try it but I’m way too invested in NixOS. I eventually want to work on a project to offer these optimizations in NixOS and have a binary cache available for other users, but that would require a lot of storage and processing power since every single package would have to be rebuilt.