cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15273527

Google Messages’ sent text editing feature has now begun rolling out to beta users, indicating that stable rollout is around the corner.

  • lemming934@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 months ago

    I found Google messages to be unreliable: refusing to send a SMS if the Internet connection is bad. The signal that the message failed to send is a single hollow checkmark.

    I switched to fossify messages, which just sends SMSs or MMSs and doesn’t create its own flawed messaging protocol

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      7 months ago

      SMS and MMS are not very secure however. RCS is technically an open standard. it’s mostly controlled by Google at the moment, but hopefully that will change as Apple enters the game this year.

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        7 months ago

        If I want to have security, I would use a different communication protocol. I find it unacceptable for an SMS app to change quietly change to a different protocol, particularly if it causes messages to fail to send.

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          6 months ago

          The neat thing about Android is that you have the choice to do that. None of us understand why you want to use sms over rcs, but we love that you can.

          • Dutchie@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            SMS is the only universal messaging protocol, it works on EVERY phone instead of only smartphones. Besides that, why would you use a a messaging app owned by a data grabber / privacy violater.

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              6 months ago

              If it was that big a deal for you, why would you use a phone OS by that same company?

              SMS is hot garbage:

              1. The first “S” stands for short. If your message is over 160 characters, you are sending multiple messages. The implementation of SMS is a hack on the carrier network in the first place, and joining multiple messages, particularly across carriers is a complication to this hack. Sure, 99.99% of messages are delivered just fine. But if the message doesn’t arrive for some reason, there’s no acknowledgement of this. The recipient just doesn’t get it.
              2. SMS is easy to spoof. If I have even basic carrier access, I can send a message to your dad from your number.
              3. SMS is not secure - at all.
              4. I can initiate a number port on your number, and while that port request will likely fail, it’s possible that I can receive messages that were destined for you in the short term.

              But sure. It works for anyone on any phone.

        • gianni@lemmy.ca
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          7 months ago

          Security should be both convenient and default for everyone.

          RCS is opt-in. Nothing is changing protocols without your prior consent and knowledge.

          • lemming934@lemmy.sdf.org
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            6 months ago

            I guess I didn’t notice when I opted in, and couldn’t find a way to opt out when I realized it was broken

      • Hanrahan@slrpnk.net
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        6 months ago

        Yes, imagine, its controlled by Google…and Apple, thay woukd be a backward step

        Fuck RCS, just install Signal

        • gianni@lemmy.ca
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          6 months ago

          I would have to disagree. A duopoly sucks, but it’s still better than a monopoly.