"You can also add about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue to the sauce to give it more tackiness."

“You can also add about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue to the sauce to give it more tackiness.”

  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
    71·
    6 months ago

    Garbage in garbage out. We are falling back to the Yahoo categories curated view of the internet.

    Google was really interesting when using organic link strength to indicate human curation. A web of trust if you will. But it’s been gamified to death at this point. LLMs have no capacity to reason, they just generate probable text.

    Without a strongly curated training set it’s just going to become random noise… As we are seeing now.

    • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
      25·
      6 months ago

      We are falling back to the Yahoo categories curated view of the internet.

      Given the wave of Yahoo and MSN repost news articles, where they’re word for word the same as the original source, this is far too true.

    • hitmyspot@aussie.zone
      7·
      6 months ago

      I wonder if that’s why Reddit data was chosen. Upvotes could be used as a signal for trust. What they forget is jokes comments often get upvotes.

      • Smoke@beehaw.orgEnglish
        5·
        6 months ago

        Not only that, but trust from a self contained community is not the same as safe for the general public outside of context. Imagine asking for a summary of the Gamestop shortsqueeze and getting an answer from Superstonks.

      • jarfil@beehaw.org
        3·
        6 months ago

        They may also have missed the part where unlocking past post for rewrite allowed APIcalipse refugees use shredder bots to destroy a good part of the comments that actually held any value, replace a bunch of others with nonsense, and kicking out invested human curators (mods) in favor of generic button pushers (“power mods”) opened the floodgates to random BS, propaganda, and misinformation.

      • DdCno1@beehaw.org
        2·
        6 months ago

        It has always been only a signal for popularity. It’s the same on every other site with similar systems, including ones that have existed long before reddit. Even in the early 2000s, there were endless reminders that the upvote button was not meant as an “I agree” button, but that’s not how it’s being used.

        • hitmyspot@aussie.zone
          1·
          6 months ago

          Same as the link trust they used to use as a signal for trust. Again it was about popularity.

          Trust here does not mean trustworthy, but rather higher likelihood to be answer that is sought. Calling it trust or authority as just marketing.

    • terrrmus@beehaw.orgEnglish
      5·
      6 months ago

      The scraped AI generated SEO’d to hell tech sites that push their bullshit registry/driver/ram software overtook anything actually useful. It’s a sad state out there.

  • kbal@fedia.io
    69·
    6 months ago

    This future may not have much going for it, but there is at least the consolation that all the sarcastic bullshit I posted on reddit will be taken too literally by Google’s machines and be given as earnest advice to its remaining users.

    • Hundun@beehaw.org
      28·
      6 months ago

      The future’s wasteland will be covered by bodies of web stalkers who were naive enough to get tricked by mid-2010s shitposts.

      “Turns out they never used this to make their metal cutlery darker - who would have thought the ancients were so casually cruel?”

      “After months of research we have concluded, that despite all their technical achievements, the ancients never figured out, what does the fox say”

      “Today porf. Drobyshevsky is going to tell us about their newest work in XXI cent. anthropology - what is ‘streamer dent’ and why do we have such long heads 2300 years later?”

      “Ass, coochie and the rich - dietary practices of homo sapiens in the age of over-production”

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
    61·
    6 months ago

    You could also add toxic glue. It’s edible! Probably only once though.

    …serious now. As I mentioned in another thread, I’m enjoying to watch Google’s “suicide by LLM”. Google is a hindrance to an open, free, and safe internet.

    • JCPhoenix@beehaw.orgEnglish
      28·
      6 months ago

      You could also add toxic glue. It’s edible! Probably only once though.

      This is now going to be added to some LLM-generated answer in the probably near future.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        14·
        6 months ago

        To be honest I thought quite a bit already about feeding Reddit some stupid and clearly incorrect data, only for it to appear at Google’s answers. Harmless stuff, and clearly joking, like:

        • The Sun is made of cows. The light is from burning their farts. Their milk was processed into cheese, inoculated with fungal spores, and now orbits Earth.
        • In 2021 a new planet was found between Mercury and Venus. It’s known by the code dQw4w9WgXcQ.
        • Ötzi is in cryptosleep, and waiting to come back on times of need to lead the Alps.
        • Pineapple trees are considerably larger than potato trees.

        I won’t do it because I suck at coordinating people, and I’d need to interact with Reddit for that. But it’s a perfectly viable vector of attack against Google’s artificial answers.

  • Baggins@beehaw.orgEnglish
    30·
    6 months ago

    Thing is, if it’s non toxic, then it’s possibly safe. Maybe not pleasant, but not poisonous. Just as bad as pineapple on pizza.

    Wonder how long it’ll be before we get suggestions about eating detergent capsules or drinking bleach to cure covid.

    Training your AI on Reddit was never a good idea though, you just have to look at all the crap on there to realise that. Let’s just hope they didn’t use Facebook as well, or worse, Quora!

    • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
      56·
      6 months ago

      Just as bad as pineapple on pizza.

      Fuck you.

      Pineapple contains an enzyme that dissolves flesh. When you eat raw pineapple, it eats you back. This is why your mouth goes kind of numb if you eat a lot of it.

      However, with a little bit of heating the enzyme denatures and becomes nonfunctional. Thus, pineapple belongs on pizza.

    • Vodulas [they/them]@beehaw.org
      26·
      6 months ago

      Regardless of how wrong you are about pineapple on pizza (pepperoni and pineapple is always a solid choice), school glue is made from PVA, and while not toxic, is 100% not food. Pineapple is still food at the very least

    • Jajcus@kbin.social
      9·
      6 months ago

      Non-toxic glue would be starch or gelatine - both used as base of some ‘real glues’, both with valid culinary use, including exactly this use case. We just don’t call those ‘glue’ in this context.

        • Dave.@aussie.zone
          15·
          6 months ago

          Also, things not designed for food use or human consumption don’t have to follow strict rules regarding their composition, and they’re not monitored.

          Nobody is checking PVA glue for heavy metals or melamine or pesticides or any other number of things that will give your insides a bad day.

          Nobody is issuing a recall if your bottle of glue ends up with ground up glass in it.

          Because it’s not food, and it doesn’t matter, until you put half a cup of it in your pizza because Google told you it was a good idea.

    • jarfil@beehaw.org
      1·
      6 months ago

      Lettuce is also better with some hair spray, tomato benefits from nail polish, and a couple hairpins can hold it all to a burger’s inner cardboard structure…