• Earth Walker@lemmy.world
    9822·
    4 months ago

    In other words, Vaxry is so unwilling to compromise or learn from others that he would rather isolate his project from the broader FOSS community. That says a lot about him and the people who support him, especially since this conflict with freedesktop.org started over Vaxry condoning hateful trolling of trans people within the Hyprland community.

    This is a problem for me as a Hyprland user because if I share some rice I made or make suggestions for other users, I’m leading people into a community that may be actively hateful towards them. It utterly extinguishes any enthusiasm I have for the project. I like the software but I’d rather be part of a project and a community that I can feel good and excited about. Maybe time to find a new tiling Wayland compositor.

      • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
        427·
        4 months ago

        I feel that like idiot, “ricing” is far enough removed from its roots that its fine. Thats just my opinion though

        • GustavoM@lemmy.worldEnglish
          24·
          4 months ago

          Mostly because the “reddit mentality” has already established in this community, where the downvote exists solely as a self-validation/“dopamine fix” feature rather than flagging a post as bad and irrelevant.

      • Zozano@lemy.lolEnglish
        91·
        4 months ago

        My partner is Korean, and I asked her if she thought this was racist. She said “it is (technically), but who is getting offended by that?”

        I never used the term in the first place, but if I did, I wouldn’t stop saying it because I know about its past.

        I’m fully convinced that anyone who is sincerely offended by that term is looking for something to be offended by.

        I don’t waste my time thinking about how “smooth brain” is offensive to people who literally have a smooth brain.

        I don’t waste my time dictating to the English; their colloquial term for a “cigarette” is inappropriate nowadays.

        And I don’t waste my time replying to comments on Lemmy regarding semantics.

        Oh, wait…

    • Quack Doc@lemmy.world
      153·
      4 months ago

      Wrong. This was originally technically motivated as hyprland had been limited by wlroots in the past and often had different update cycles from sway causing packaging issues.

      Vaxry never condoned hateful trolling of trans people. In fact, he publicly acknowledged, and apologized for the lack of moderation that lead to the incident, said he would do better, DID better, and THEN after everything had blown over FDO tried to ego butt into his server even more.

      • Earth Walker@lemmy.world
        133·
        4 months ago

        I’ll quote Vaxry from his blog:

        “Obviously, the fact that I am banned from contributing to Freedesktop - and by extension wlroots, is another big factor, and probably the one that finally tipped the scales, because I am no longer allowed to participate in discussion or contribute code to wlroots.”

        https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2024-wlrootsRewrite

        “I definitely am not a fan of how seemingly weak people online, especially teenagers, have become. Words are just words. Someone calling another person a “retard” shouldn’t really be a big deal.”

        "I said:

        if I run a discord server around cultivating tomatoes, I should not exclude people based on their political beliefs, unless they use my discord server to spread those views. which means even if they are literally adolf hitler, I shouldn’t care, as long as they don’t post about gassing people on my server

        that is inclusivity

        Which I definitely stand by."

        https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2023-inclusiveActivists

        • Quack Doc@lemmy.world
          72·
          4 months ago

          is another big factor, and probably the one that finally tipped the scales

          means that it is not the sole motivating factor.

          which means even if they are literally adolf hitler, I shouldn’t care, as long as they don’t post about gassing people on my server

          Literally means that if they go around spewing crap, they get dealt with. This is not condoning hateful trolling at all. He is on the free speech side of things, but that doesn’t mean he condones it at all. If you start posting bad crap, you get dealt with. Minor slights, are as the name implies, minor. Those are allowed but within strict limitations, if you start going full blown idiot, you get dealt with.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
          42·
          4 months ago

          He’s completely right about everything there.

          Unless he is selectively banning trans people, not making a tech discord server about those discussions is perfectly fine.