YouTube has been spotted testing server-side ads, which could pose a problem to ad blockers.

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    www.youtube.com##+js(json-prune-fetch-response, playerAds adPlacements adSlots playerResponse.playerAds playerResponse.adPlacements playerResponse.adSlots, , propsToMatch, /player?)
    

    Click on uBO icon > ⚙ Dashboard button > Add the filter(s) in “My filters” pane > ✓ Apply changes > Open new tab and test again.

    from the reddit page idk if it works but most comments say it does

    and if it does, that’s fucking hilarious

    this will have taken a team months of work and one ublock dev just threw it in the toilet within an hour

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      ok, so i added this code to my ublock origin filter list, then went to youtube, and the injected ads were still showing up in about half the vids. closed firefox, reopened, same. rebooted my win11 machine, now the injected ads are NOT showing up any longer. not sure if youtube switched it off because they’re still beta testing this bullshit or if the code is working but it SEEMS to be working. if it stops i’ll come back to edit this comment. thanks for the tip man!

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    New article title. YouTube tests more ways of making their service shit and driving away users.

    Edit: TIFO Scott Manley is on Odysee so i will start watching him there instead. One less yt channel is always a good thing

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      I mean, if you’re not paying for it, and they can’t advertise to you, what do they need you for?

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        To keep claiming they have x billion accounts…

        There’s a big reason why these companies don’t remove the bots and willingly allow them to do whatever. It boosts their numbers to inflate their actual worth.

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        at least on my part, what they get from channel memberships (a whopping 30%) I’m sure exceeds the amount in ad revenue they lose from me

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        Does YouTube have competition? Your line of inquiry doesn’t mean much if the content is only on YouTube.

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    Just got hit with this for the first time, and at first I was like what the fuck is this happening here, I’m running Firefox latest, and UBlock origin latest, never seen this before. Happening for every video, two injected video ads before the video, seem skippable, but i’m not clicking on them. Hope UBlock catches up to this quick, this sucks.

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      Mine are getting trapped by pihole. They take 10 seconds to time out and just show a banner ad that won’t automatically go away without hitting the skip button. It’s really frustrating since I liked letting videos auto play as I fall asleep.

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        at least it’s not currently spawning an actual video advertisement, so, small blessings, the two injected ads stay static for 10 seconds a piece (makes sense), and if you don’t click skip, the first tiers to the second then tiers to the video (was thinking of going pihole but you just confirmed it won’t make a difference, if they start injecting autoplay video ads, then it’ll be back on my todo list)

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      Support candidates who want to limit the ability for large tech companies to acquire their competitors. Maybe even those that wish to see their acquisitions rolled back. Maybe even those that wish to see them broken up.

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      Grayjay has been useful for that. I still follow people on YouTube, but if they setup a channel anywhere else I can switch my feed to draw from those sources instead.

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    fucking YouTube, am i right?

    no seriously, havent used it in months, and weirdly dont Miss it. i used to watch YouTube the whole day.

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      May I ask what do you use for content instead of YouTube? A lot of certain people I follow are on YouTube and music that I listen to are often only on YouTube these days. Not even Spotify has the niche songs (mainly Arabic and Japanese songs).

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        well, i would never even think of using it for music (except downloading what i cant find) same with spotify (i hate streaming). I just watched regular videos, which I just suddenly don’t do anymore, I started binging TV shows instead, -no ads .

        I just couldn’t bare the ads, they’re that bad. and when I think of stuff that makes me mad, I can’t do anything associated with it, I.e. watch YouTube -know there will be ads (or not, because i have an adblocker) the mere thought that there WOULD be ads is so annoying to me, that I cannot stand watching YouTube.

        but yeah back to the point, TV shows, and books, especially books have been my replacement, and I must say, they are much better.

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    This must consume a tremendous amount of processing to do since they would have to transcode copies for every ad region/campaign and every resolution on demand. I am interested in how they made this financially viable.

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      Not necessarily. They could split the video in advance, assuming the ads will always be at the same point. Even if not, they could still use the direct, unaltered source with a range. The big challenge would be keeping it all synced, which I think is safe to say that they will get right.

      But even if it did need to be transcoded, YouTube automatically transcodes every single video uploaded, multiple times. They are clearly not afraid of it.

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    I know there’s a significant part of the market that’d just say yeah, fuck it, i’ll pay for Redtube Youtube Red Youtube Premium, but there’s also a significant part of it, where a lot of people would rather just stop watching stuff entirely.

    It’s just like Hulu back in the days. You’d have no choice but to pay for a premium tier, just to have 14 unskippable ads forced down your throat, all in a span of a 19 minute long tv episode. I stopped paying after that month and resorted to piracy.

    Piracy is always a service issue, except now it’s legitimately going to harm individual creators, who have just about everything to lose, rathen that a rotten husk of some corporation, that’s going to print free money, no matter what you do

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      except now it’s legitimately going to harm individual creators,

      I know it isn’t the world we live in anymore, and there’s nothing we can do about it…but maybe we shouldn’t have treated YouTube like a job and just kept it as a hobby video website between ordinary people. Like what it started out as.

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        To be honest, whether we want it or not, art is a necessary aspect of society. The issue here is that we put a lot of trust in a corporate environment, the entire goal of which is to pocket as much as possible, while riding the success of the people creating stuff

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          Yeah that’s what I mean. People created entire careers which are 100% dependent on the whims of a mega corporation. It never seemed like a stable source of income to me. I’ve always treated it like it’s just a silly video site, nothing more.

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    I’ll be the devils advocate: if this lets them stop trying to fucking break all the 3rd party tools, then I’m almost willing to say it’s half a win.

    I only half use 3rd party tools to block ads, the MORE important half is that the 3rd party apps fucking show me my subscriptions in chronological order and NOTHING FUCKING ELSE.

    I’d trade off ads you could skip by hopping forward 30 seconds in a video stream vs. missing things you’re actually subscribed to, and having to deal with all the garbage google shovels at you.

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    ~~My local invidious instance is borked too. Not sure if its related and I don’t have time to investigate now. ~~ Guess I need something else for background noise.

    Edit: Took enough time to get a fresh image and its working again. Looks like I hadn’t updated since September.

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      If they’re truly server-side injected, then they would also appear permanently in any downloaded copy because the server would be telling the client what pieces are available-including the ad pieces with no way to differentiate.

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    Aha! So this is how one snuck into a video I downloaded last night. Fuckers. At least with a locally downloaded file I can quickly skip ahead.

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    Since it is server side, will this effect the alternative front ends?

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      That’s the point. They want to stop people bypassing ads by using alternative front ends. If they succeed with server side ads, then it’s going to be difficult to block ads. Maybe not impossible, but difficult.

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        That’s what I figured, but I’m not expert on how things work so wanted someone who knows more chime in. Sad times

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      this isn’t working since YouTube inserts the ads at random at random location in videos. so each user gets ads on different videos and locations in the video.
      sponsorblock works specially because the locations in the video stay the same. But with this random inserts by youtube this also can break sponsorblock since now the locations of sponsorblock segments change too if ads are inserted.