I don’t understand this. Why not just give a normal priced thing to them? I don’t think this is very nice and I don’t think its ok. Could have just leave it out as well but wtf.
I don’t blame them for responding petty. Steam has some of the most hostile and bigoted people out there. Something like this is a great way to push back against them while being funny and highlighting the absurdity of their request.
Which it so is, people don’t need a straight pride flag or straight pride label, they’re just trying to push back against LGBTQ acceptance.
There’s a couple actually. The most popular designs usually consist of just black and white horizontal stripes, usually with male and female symbols intertwined. There’s one that’s black and white, with a rainbow pyramid overlayed on top.
That last one is the Ally flag, though I don’t see why Allies should have a flag dedicated to them, if you want to fly a flag in support of us, just use the rainbow or progressive flag. Like why is a special ally flag needed?
The request is seen as absurd because for the most part straight/cis people do not need to affirm or have pride in their straightness, they aren’t oppressed or have limited recognition for it, the desire for “straight pride” is completely reactionary to the idea of LGBTQ+ pride, and the person on Steam who requested that feature is likely a bigot who is annoyed about LGBTQ+ pride, so the developer’s response is justified.
I mean, I think that saying “straight people don’t need to take pride in their straightness” is equal to “gay people don’t need to take pride in their gayness”. Which is the goal - for being gay, queer, trans to be universally accepted everywhere. For the value of gay pride to be equal to the value of pride in the straightness - which is when being LGBTQ+ is so normalized in society, that there is no need to take pride in it. You don’t really get that by alienating someone. Like, imagine the gay tag was at such a high price - the blowback would be huge.
Straight people do not need to take pride in being straight as they are not oppressed for being straight. They do not need to beg for recognition as a straight person or beg not to be abused for being straight, people are understood and assumed to be straight by default. Straight pride parades, straight pride badges, and straight pride labels are a reactionary counter movement to LGBTQ+ pride often arranged and practiced by people who are bigoted or intolerant towards LGBTQ+ people.
You saying that calling out people for setting up or attending straight pride events or wearing a straight pride label is somehow equivalent t criticizing or denying gay people pride is a bad faith comparison because the situations are not equal and like I’ve already said. Straight people are not oppressed for being straight.
You say that straight people aren’t bullied for being straight, and yet the straight tag is in quotation marks and costs 9999 instead of 75. Which is bullying compared to other tags.
I myself am bi. I would never “wear” a badge saying that. But I understand people that would want to. I also understand people who would want to wear a straight badge. And saying that the only reason to wear one is to be reactionary to gay pride and to “be a counter movement” feels like gatekeeping people away from their sexual identity. I don’t want “straight” to be “normal” and “gay” to be “abnormal”. Assumptions ruin this world and lead to stereotypes.
The original request was for inclusion, and you bloodthirsty foamers reject them out of hand because you’re petty. You’re sitting there putting people down and thinking you’re just so cool because everyone straight is obviously the kind of person who hurt you before.
You’re so right! The straights are so brave and persecuted!
It’s so hard to be considered the only valid sexuality by the majority of people and religions. They should definitely cater to the straights. The lgbtqia+ population shouldn’t get a single thing- not protections, spaces, clothing, or even name tags that straights don’t.
Think it’s time that the straights get a pride day? Maybe a white lives matter movement is in order too! Maybe we should have a mens day as well. Hell, let’s do something super special for all the straight white men since they have it so tough and their title is important and they fought soooooo hard for it.
If we want to normalize LGBT, we can’t assume someone’s sexuality, so therefore labels are valuable.
And no, straight people don’t need a separate pride day, they could just use the same day we already have. I’d love to see straight people marching alongside their LGBT friends celebrating normalizing all types of sexuality. The LGBT community has “won” once people are more likely to all ask than assume someone’s sexuality.
So I guess setting equality as the goalpost is fine. But I just don’t think that straight people are really all that into having recognition for being straight. And I don’t think that LGBT want straight people to be treated worse in order to achieve equality. So maybe not the best goalpost but it’s close. Fish and birds have very different needs and equality is not really going to make it better without a lot of nuance.
Like the guy on fire begging for water doesn’t deserve it more than you but if you point at him and say “no fair what about equality” it kind of ignores all the important context and makes you look like a dick.
And straight people aren’t all that into being bashed and berated for being straight. I want equality, and to me that means equal, no context needed. So it comes off as extremely hypocritical when I see straights, whites, whatever it may be, getting the same treatment that they get ridiculed for. Your analogy works for a lot of things, but not for the way anyone should be treated. Period.
I don’t understand this. Why not just give a normal priced thing to them? I don’t think this is very nice and I don’t think its ok. Could have just leave it out as well but wtf.
The original request was petty, so was the response.
I don’t blame them for responding petty. Steam has some of the most hostile and bigoted people out there. Something like this is a great way to push back against them while being funny and highlighting the absurdity of their request.
Which it so is, people don’t need a straight pride flag or straight pride label, they’re just trying to push back against LGBTQ acceptance.
Sadly they do have a straight pride flag… 🇺🇲
There’s a couple actually. The most popular designs usually consist of just black and white horizontal stripes, usually with male and female symbols intertwined. There’s one that’s black and white, with a rainbow pyramid overlayed on top.
This was a jab at American christofascism
That last one is the Ally flag, though I don’t see why Allies should have a flag dedicated to them, if you want to fly a flag in support of us, just use the rainbow or progressive flag. Like why is a special ally flag needed?
How is the request absurd? The straight title didn’t remove any other pride flag or titles didn’t it?
The request is seen as absurd because for the most part straight/cis people do not need to affirm or have pride in their straightness, they aren’t oppressed or have limited recognition for it, the desire for “straight pride” is completely reactionary to the idea of LGBTQ+ pride, and the person on Steam who requested that feature is likely a bigot who is annoyed about LGBTQ+ pride, so the developer’s response is justified.
I mean, I think that saying “straight people don’t need to take pride in their straightness” is equal to “gay people don’t need to take pride in their gayness”. Which is the goal - for being gay, queer, trans to be universally accepted everywhere. For the value of gay pride to be equal to the value of pride in the straightness - which is when being LGBTQ+ is so normalized in society, that there is no need to take pride in it. You don’t really get that by alienating someone. Like, imagine the gay tag was at such a high price - the blowback would be huge.
Straight people do not need to take pride in being straight as they are not oppressed for being straight. They do not need to beg for recognition as a straight person or beg not to be abused for being straight, people are understood and assumed to be straight by default. Straight pride parades, straight pride badges, and straight pride labels are a reactionary counter movement to LGBTQ+ pride often arranged and practiced by people who are bigoted or intolerant towards LGBTQ+ people.
You saying that calling out people for setting up or attending straight pride events or wearing a straight pride label is somehow equivalent t criticizing or denying gay people pride is a bad faith comparison because the situations are not equal and like I’ve already said. Straight people are not oppressed for being straight.
You say that straight people aren’t bullied for being straight, and yet the straight tag is in quotation marks and costs 9999 instead of 75. Which is bullying compared to other tags.
I myself am bi. I would never “wear” a badge saying that. But I understand people that would want to. I also understand people who would want to wear a straight badge. And saying that the only reason to wear one is to be reactionary to gay pride and to “be a counter movement” feels like gatekeeping people away from their sexual identity. I don’t want “straight” to be “normal” and “gay” to be “abnormal”. Assumptions ruin this world and lead to stereotypes.
Does the word “intersectionality” make you recoil physically?
No it doesn’t, what’s your point?
The original request was for inclusion, and you bloodthirsty foamers reject them out of hand because you’re petty. You’re sitting there putting people down and thinking you’re just so cool because everyone straight is obviously the kind of person who hurt you before.
I’m straight too so I’m having a hard time understanding. Why do you and that guy feel the need to make yourselves victims of an imagined atrocity?
You’re so right! The straights are so brave and persecuted!
It’s so hard to be considered the only valid sexuality by the majority of people and religions. They should definitely cater to the straights. The lgbtqia+ population shouldn’t get a single thing- not protections, spaces, clothing, or even name tags that straights don’t.
Think it’s time that the straights get a pride day? Maybe a white lives matter movement is in order too! Maybe we should have a mens day as well. Hell, let’s do something super special for all the straight white men since they have it so tough and their title is important and they fought soooooo hard for it.
What’s so wrong about a label?
If we want to normalize LGBT, we can’t assume someone’s sexuality, so therefore labels are valuable.
And no, straight people don’t need a separate pride day, they could just use the same day we already have. I’d love to see straight people marching alongside their LGBT friends celebrating normalizing all types of sexuality. The LGBT community has “won” once people are more likely to all ask than assume someone’s sexuality.
Equal means equal. Your argument just creates a different hierarchy does it not?
So I guess setting equality as the goalpost is fine. But I just don’t think that straight people are really all that into having recognition for being straight. And I don’t think that LGBT want straight people to be treated worse in order to achieve equality. So maybe not the best goalpost but it’s close. Fish and birds have very different needs and equality is not really going to make it better without a lot of nuance.
Like the guy on fire begging for water doesn’t deserve it more than you but if you point at him and say “no fair what about equality” it kind of ignores all the important context and makes you look like a dick.
And straight people aren’t all that into being bashed and berated for being straight. I want equality, and to me that means equal, no context needed. So it comes off as extremely hypocritical when I see straights, whites, whatever it may be, getting the same treatment that they get ridiculed for. Your analogy works for a lot of things, but not for the way anyone should be treated. Period.