• Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    This really isn’t that surprising. They used ROMs for the classic games in Animal Crossing. They even had evidence it was from a release group, and not Nintendo’s own copies

    I really don’t understand why this is embarrassing. I don’t know the exact setup they have going on. Is it like a kiosk where people can play classic games, or is it a monitor just displaying them? They have their own emulator, Canoe, that they used for the SNES Classic. I don’t remember the name of the NES one

    Weren’t at least some of the games in the Super Mario Collection ROMs? I guess I can see why people would expect a direct port from the company that created it, or original hardware running the original games, but it isn’t like Nintendo doesn’t already have a track record for this sort of thing

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      1 month ago

      It’s embarrassing because of how extremely litigious Nintendo is, and that they are themselves profiting using other people’s work (emulators and/or ROMs acquired from the internet), the exact thing they ruin lives over.

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        1 month ago

        Just so we’re clear, are you under the impression that “ROMs acquired from the Internet” represent something other than Nintendo’s work?

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            1 month ago

            “Ripping” ROMs, or dumping them, takes almost no effort. If you have the cartridge reader its about as much work as taking photos off an SD card. Certainly nothing at all like cracking a game, which is pretty much software development.

            Please consider informing yourself before forming strong opinions.

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                They were observed finding one ROM on the Internet, ever. They do have their own emulator(s).

                Nintendo is a bunch of humans. If my boss asks me to see if I can find the installer for an old version of our software, you can bet I’ll check anywhere before volunteering to go scrape old hard drives.

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        1 month ago

        I would have thought its embarrasing that they couldnt provide real hardware for an official museum

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      1 month ago

      Their NES and SNES mini consoles were also just off the shelf ARM SBCs running emulators. If I recall correctly people even found signatures of release groups in some of the ROMs.

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        1 month ago

        They are at least Nintendo’s own in-house emulators. I don’t recall the situation with the Classic systems ROMs, but Animal Crossing had the release group signatures if I’m not mistaken. They’ve been pulling this garbage for a long time

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          The nes roms in animal crossing for N64 had the header for the ines emulator. Now, a few years before Nintendo hired a guy who worked on the audio driver for ines, and that tomohiro is credited with lots of emu projects for Nintendo, so it’s not impossible that they reused that header idea. In the gigaleak there’s a tool that adds the ines header to clean roms.

          This said, it’s also not impossible that they’re taking a peek in other OSS emulators source code, i recall that luigiblood (a guy obsessed in decompiling Nintendo emulators) found traces of 64dd emulator code from pj64 in some Nintendo product, which then was silently removed after he tweeted about that