I saw plenty of efforts that aim to create a Linux distribution for non-enthusiasts, for people who just want to use their computers, and not care about the details - A Desktop for All on the GNOME blog, most recently. While I commend the effort, my own experience is that these efforts are futile, and start off from a fundamentally wrong premise: that people are willing (let alone wanting) to manage their own operating systems.

My family is using Linux because that’s the system I can maintain for them. Apart from my Dad, they never installed Linux, and never will. They don’t install software, they don’t upgrade, they don’t change settings either. All of that is something I do for them. And to do so effectively, I need a distribution I am familiar with, one that is also flexible enough to fine-tune for every member of the family, because they prefer fundamentally different things!

The common pattern between all these three is that neither of them maintains their own systems. I do. As such, how beginner friendly the distribution is, is meaningless. The users of the system don’t care, they’ll never see those parts. They’ll have a preconfigured system maintained by someone else, and that’s exactly what they want. To make this work, I’m using distributions I am familiar with. For my parents, that’s Debian, because I was a Debian person when their systems were installed. For my Wife, it is NixOS, because I’m a NixOS person now. For the Twins, it will likely be NixOS too.

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    8 days ago

    I use fedora atomic and I maintain nothing.

    I use my computer once every week and I don’t have to care about anything. Fedora does everything.

    If you take care of the systems of your kids or family, that’s up to you. You choose to do that.

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      6 days ago

      Yeah, +1 from my side for Fedora Atomic, especially uBlue.

      For this use case, I can absolutely recommend using Aurora (KDE) or Bluefin (Gnome), especially with the gts branch.

      uBlue offers different branches, namely:

      • latest: in sync with the current Fedora repos, all the newest stuff official Fedora also ships, including kernel
      • stable this is the default by now. You have to wait two weeks more for feature and kernel updates, but they are better tested. If something would have broken, others would have noticed and already fixed it.
      • gts: this one is what I recommend for this use case. With that, you’ll get the last release.

      At the moment, F41 hit Bazzite/ Aurora latest already three weeks ago when it landed, on stable, I got it a few days ago, and on gts, you have to wait another 5 months until F42 is released, and then you’ll update to F41.

      gts is perfect for those who don’t need the very latest features, and want something more chill with fewer surprises.

      And the other benefits of uBlue/ Atomic also apply of course, like better hardware enablement, QoL tweaks, automatic staged updates, and much more.

      9.5/10, can absolutely recommend!

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      8 days ago

      Same here with Bazzite. I freaking love it. I love the whole Ublue project. I haven’t tried the Fedora Atomic spins, how do they differ from Ublue?

      Any other take to add to this?

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        7 days ago

        Difference are preinstalled packages and DEs. In the end, it’s all fedora linux with rpm-ostree. They are all good