• Alex@lemmy.ml
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    19 days ago

    I just want to buy home automation gadgets that don’t need a bloody cloud account to work.

  • realitista@lemm.ee
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    19 days ago

    Still on zwave which works great. Don’t see the point of this standard which runs over an inferior type of networking and is brought to us by the companies that created the interoperability problem in the first place.

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      19 days ago

      Don’t see the point of this standard which runs over an inferior type of networking

      Inferior how? Matter is not comparable to Z-Wave. Z-Wave is a mesh network, Matter is just a standard which would allow Alexa, Siri, Google, etc. to control the same devices. To allow Z-Wave like functionality, Matter is able to work on top of Thread, which is in fact superior to Z-Wave.

      is brought to us by the companies that created the interoperability problem in the first place

      Of course. You don’t want to be the company known for refusing to participate in an open standard, even if you secretly don’t want it to succeed. Anyways, there’s no reason for companies to not want an open standard for controlling smart devices, since it literally helps everyone support more devices for basically no effort once you add support for Matter.

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        18 days ago

        Inferior range, potential for interference, power consumption, meshing, and security. Name one area where it’s better.

        And I still expect one or more of these companies to break the standard to create their own walled garden.

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          18 days ago

          Matter over Thread is similar to Z-Wave at the user level and supports a lot more device types. The below is from Silicon Labs

          • Application layer: Matter is an IP-based application layer protocol that can uses lower layers from other technologies such as Wi-Fi, Ethernet, or Thread. Z-Wave is complete protocol covering physical layer to application layer Its a non-IP MESH protocol that uses sub-GHz ISM bands.

          • Device types: Matter supports a broader range of device types than Z-Wave, including cameras, speakers, TVs, and more. Z-Wave focuses on low bandwidth devices that require low power and reliable communication, such as security systems, sensors, switches, and locks.

          • Security: Matter provides end-to-end encryption, device certification, and cloud integration, which can enhance the security and privacy of smart home devices. Z-Wave also offers encryption and device authentication, but it does not have a built-in cloud service.

          • Compatibility: Matter is compatible with popular voice assistants and other IP-based devices, which can make it easier to integrate with existing smart home ecosystems. Z-Wave requires a Z-Wave specific gateway or hub, but has a large number of compatible devices that work together.