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  • Absolutely it can.

    But Redhat is a huge contributor

    The biggest threat that Linux faces isn’t from Microsoft or other companies. Over the past 30 years, I’ve noticed it is actually from the community. I’ve seen so many cases where the community blows things out of proportion and scares off developers. It sucks. Linux and open source would be so much more successful if we didn’t constantly make open source toxic for companies

    Poor people like Lennart Poettering get shat on constantly too. He could get a much better paying job

    Even right now… VSCode. It’s open source and MIT. People are STILL crapping on Microsoft and saying stuff like “oh wait for the enshittification”, instead of thanking them, or encouraging them for more

    It’s bonkers… There’s so much negative reinforcement out there that it’s scaring people away


  • Err… Those are bad examples.

    Skype was bad before microsoft lol. If anything, Microsoft actually made it more usable… Skype was NEVER good lol

    And very few people in the real world have an issue with Github. The evidence is that you’ll notice projects aren’t moving away from it, and Github is growing fast. I found there’s a small number of people making 99.99% of the noise (like the first main “enshiffication” post on Lemmy, which was mainly pointing towards comments made by a developer without many commits and as a open source project, they weren’t even paying for github). If you want a good example, Sourceforge would be a better one (although, it’s possible even they cleaned up their act)

    Nobody would call VS Code bloated or anything. There are some things I don’t like, but i have tried so many IDE’s in the past 20 years, and can honestly say that VS Code survived because its hugely easier, and it’s actually a high quality product. Anyone who has tried stuff like Atom or Eclipse will attest to that (Eclipse was great at the time, but was painfully slow)

    I did see a post about a rust one upcoming that did seem interesting, but its really just a slightly faster version of VS Code (and VS Code itself is no slouch).









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    I was surprised by this comment… Until I saw you just joined here (probably from Reddit) where comments like that get upvoted by bots and it’s a echo chamber which has gone full stupidity as of late in many subs

    There’s literally no evidence of that.

    And the fact he has just endorsed a black woman for president makes it more ridiculous.





  • Half of what you’re writing isn’t really true.

    You’re likely assuming a lot of that.

    Everyone knows that Oracle was the reason. Sorry, but they basically bragged that they stole the latest rhel source code and added an unbreakable kernel. And they purposely targeted Redhats customers with support by stealing their work.

    In other words, their only other choice was to basically close shop… Oracle has been screwing them for years,

    Also, sorry, but is it disrespectful when a company drops a project? We could make that same comment about every project. Also, CentOS is open source, as you said, so anyone can download it . They didn’t.

    You’re also likely assuming they’re not pouring a huge amount of resources into it too

    The perfect current example of rhel improving Linux is pipewire. They are literally unfucking Linux one component at a time in large chunks. It’s insane that people here are treating them so badly.

    In fact, the community has no problems mistreating Linux developers over tiny things, which is why developers like myself which have been badly attacked in the past have stopped contributing


  • To be blunt…

    Redhat contributes a huge amount to the community.

    The only ones who think they’re misstepping or whatever are just making noise and likely aren’t even using RHEL.

    I don’t think people realise exactly how far their contributions go for usability, and getting rid of Redhat of actually a really bad thing for Linux.

    I’d even argue, the only people complaining about this likely don’t contribute anything to Linux anyway…

    The only thing they did is stop oracle pulling their repo, rebranding and selling support slightly cheaper.



  • Yes… Similarly, there are lots of browsers that failed too… KHTML for instance is what Chrome and safari was based off…

    They have a huge number of projects they tried… Including their own mobile phone OS which they were actively shipping (it’s a pity it didn’t survive, would have been nice to have a 3rd OS)

    It’s really a risk / time payoff here. The reality is, when you see projects like this, there are 20 more which fail.

    When you have limited resources, things like Firefox VPN actually make sense, because its low risk (there’s a lot of competitors, but its fast to implement).

    An office suite takes a huge amount of resources, and is a lot of work.

    VPN’s do have their uses. But, I agree… 99% of it is scum marketing


  • Yeah. Maybe I’m just old (I’m 40).

    I would be happy to donate. But, the reality is… donations don’t work in my experience. One of my projects went FrontPage on all the major tech sites (and even was mentioned in Linux format magazine).

    I got $300 in donations.

    $250 was from a person I knew…

    Backend projects often get screwed more, and I guess you probably need to hope you get supported by companies like Redhat ultimately. This may be why in my case. But backend projects always have people dissing them (frontend projects just need to look good and markety)

    I think what’s more important is that it’s open source to be honest. We’re actually lucky we still have Mozilla honestly.

    In Mozilla browser days (after Netscape), id imagine it would have been a struggle to get a good pay. The people still there I suspect took a massive risk, and could have moved to lots of other companies like Google instead quite easily

    I think they deserve to get rewarded…


  • Rich guy?

    Presumably that is about Mitchell Baker… A woman… who was there since the beginning when the company was failing…

    The new CEO is also a woman and a temp CEO, who I’m guessing will again be replaced by an existing employee. Which guy are you referring to?

    What browser projects are you assisting with or donating to?

    Are you assisting with any open source projects at all?

    The biggest problem with the oss community is that as a developer, you need to accept always that you’ll get treated like absolute dirt by the community.

    One of my projects went FrontPage on many major Linux sites, and I ended up dropping it because I got tired of the abuse.

    You’ll get plenty of people contributing nothing to your project or competing ones, but they’ll tell you the 50 different ways you suck

    I donated back when Firefox was in beta. They were a dying company back then.

    Are you saying open source developers shouldn’t be rewarded at all?