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  • The technology mostly exists. The most important question is always how do you get people to use it.

    The only way I see people using decentralized solutions is by having one interface where you can watch decentralized content as well as YouTube. That way they don’t loose any of the content or convenience.

    No one ever bothers to open up two apps for videos, that is why a single app solution is the only way.

    The unique selling point of decentralized video plattforms atm is 1) you can watch what is banned on YouTube 2) you are not beholden to the YouTube algorithm for conent.

    So if we can sell that to users and not have them loose any convenience or UX, you can slowly start replacing YouTube.

    Monetization is also an important point, but others have addressed this.




  • Probably because beehaw aggressively defederates from any annoying instances.

    I would say Lemmy and the lemmy apps are currently set up to funnel as many users into any communities as possible, because there are so little people on here.

    I usually browse rising (of all communties I haven’t blocked) so there is enough content. I imagine many people are doing the same.

    The only fixes I see is when 1) Lemmy gets more users, 2) defederating aggressively or 3) heavy moderation or 4) having “high effort” barriers to posting in communities (for example: must have X much karma or write a message to the mods to post).

    All my experiences on the privacy communties were that 10x more people from outside comment and are angry that I want more privacy. Which kind of defeats the point of communties. At the moment communities act more like topic tags that categorize posts, not as real communities.

    Lemmy is pretty good for what it is, but it needs many changes to survive into the future, to operate more like how it was intended.



  • That’s the point of the repuation system.

    It’s a very hard problem, I’ll give you that.

    What you need is, each instance and community collects reputation in the federation. then users posting on those instances can collect reputation on those. basically by not being banned or massively downvoted. Your reputation is weighted by the reputation of each you collected it from instance.

    Each users identity is tied to some key that collects reputation, that you generate new identities from from for each instance/community/post. Like how some credit card services give you a new credit card number for each new website.

    Admins don’t know who you are, but they can see and verify your reputation.

    Then instance/community admins can decide if they want a different weighting. For example, to completely disregard the reputation by some instance or make one you like 10x more important.

    You could get an ordered list of posts or pseudonymous users based on the reputation. Untrustworthy users will glow like a christmas tree.

    That would be one way to do it. It’s hard to make it water tight, but any improvements would be better than the current fediworse.


  • It doesn’t have to be.

    You could keep the general structure and functioning while improving privacy.

    For example, by obfuscating post history, anonymous posting or assigning a user pseudonym per instance/community, auto-deleting old posts/comments. All optional features of course. Let instances/communites decide which of these features they want.

    Keep the structure of Lemmy with it’s Reddit-like-ness and instances, but give users, instances and communities more control over data privacy.

    Sure it’s harder to implement, you need some minimal-knowledge reputation system, but there is nothing fundamental preventing that from being possible.

    The nice thing about federation is that one instance/community can stay the same data-leaking privacy mess, if they so prefer. While others could operate analogous to 4-chan (or anything in between).