Also why do you care so much about finding a way to call me a liberal it’s obsessive :P

First step in purging your inner liberal is recognizing that you are a liberal hahaha

Nah, I give up at this point and Xi only paid me for this long, my shift is over.
Read Parenti and others.

It’s maintained by Reporters without Borders and is not US affiliated

literally a 10 second search

An anarchist like yourself, how much do you trust a Non-Governmental Organizations that is 52% funded by Western states and the rest comes from big corporations or similar fake non-state-actors?

They literally list the National Endowment for Democracy as a main partner!

(I’ll help, the NED is the soft power branch of the CIA)

Last I checked Taiwan was a sovereign nation.

Please, check again

Disputes about Taiwan’s sovereignty is the most famous fact about Taiwan. You are deeply unserious.

So what? Imperialism is suddenly okay if you don’t like the ruling ideology there?

My brother in NED, it’s not just about a “ruling ideology”, Taiwan is literally a US stronghold against China, and if you recall your geography lessons from high school, you might remember that the United States is in North America on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. If any country does imperialism on that side of the globe it’s the USA, since Taiwan is called Republic of China, and most countries don’t recognize ROC as the “true” China.

You may recall protests being violently repressed.

You may recall that the CIA literally foments colour revolutions against geopolitical rivals or countries who don’t swear fealty to the US. Have you heard of Jacobo Arbenz? Mossadegh? and so on?

You may recall that hours ago I literally quoted that 83% of Hongkongers want to belong to China.

What are you trying to prove to me? That China is perfect? I know you don’t believe that.

The point is, since it eludes you for some reason, is that it’s pure projection from the West of accusing China of bad minority policies, when the West is worse in many many ways. Not that China is “perfect” whatever that means in real world policies, but the West want you to think China = BAD. And the only reason you do this hand-wringing about minorities in China is because US State Department think tanks implanted that thought in your head some time ago by bombarding you with anti-China propaganda.

The other point is that anarchists crying about tankies are just useful idiots, since the real threat to capitalist hegemony is the actually existing socialist countries. That’s why the FBI and the CIA was always more concerned about Leninists than about anarchists.

House passes $1.6 billion to deliver anti-China propaganda overseas

We need to build resilient networks that can slowly replace oppressive centralized power.

hmm, maybe a truly massive party with many cadres around the country? perhaps? maybe?

I advocate for building strong local communities, that are heavily interconnected.

Are you 100% sure there’s nothing like this in China?

so how to do this neat leftcom kind of stuff, without some kind of centralization, when also you simultaneously need to

• modernize your country, literally everything from agriculture, to healthcare and heavy industry and so on
• defend yourself from antagonistic countries
• defend yourself from giant multinational corpos who’d jump at the chance to plunder your resources
• defend yourself from fascist/monarchist elements inside your country

I mean in actual practice in a real historical scenario?

I’m saying that the CCP does not make an effort to make its government transparent and emancipate its citizens so they can form cirtical opinions.

You said you don’t speak Chinese.

You read this where? NYT? Radio Free Asia? Totally-Non-Governmental-Organization coincidentally lead by Atlantic Council ghouls and retired NATO generals?

the press freedom index

Oh not the Burger Institute Freedom Fries Index?!?!

again, do some self crit

the point was that many anarchists are indistinguishable from centrists when it comes to actual geopolitical issues, because they have internalized western propaganda about the West’s rivals

propaganda is not just lies (though some of it is actual lies), but emphasis

nothing you’ve written in this thread is a genuine engagement with people who try to refute western propaganda about the west’s rivals, and you’ve written nothing that would indicate that you’re not a liberal who just likes anarchist aesthetics with a vague handwavy criticism of “nation states”

do some self crit
you were given answers in earnest, and you are not engaging with them in a sincere way

It’s literally just an American politician at the UN in 2018 citing “credible reports”

As an anarchist, do you often believe what US bureaucrats say? Because if you do I can give you plenty of links from other bureaucrats who don’t agree with her

The World Bank’s work is driven by core principles of inclusion, with special consideration for the protection of minorities and other vulnerable peoples. When allegations are made, the World Bank takes them seriously and reviews them thoroughly. In line with standard practice, immediately after receiving a series of serious allegations in August 2019 in connection with the Xinjiang Technical and Vocational Education and Training Project, the Bank launched a fact-finding review, and World Bank senior managers traveled to Xinjiang to gather information directly. After receiving the allegations, no disbursements were made on the project.

The team conducted a thorough review of project documents, engaged in discussions with project staff, and visited schools directly financed by the project, as well as their partner schools that were the subject of allegations. The review did not substantiate the allegations.

there are credible reports of uyghurs being repressed.

Could you link one that is not from Adrian Zenz or from ASPI or the US NGO-industrial complex?

edit:

some lurkers might have missed this all timer AMA on reddit when a literal CIA agent from Guantanamo Bay started lecturing about the “Uyghur genocide”

but what about Taiwan

You mean the island where the fascist fled after they lost the Chinese civil war and now acts as a base of US military hegemony?

Hong Kong

What about Hong Kong? The UK leased it after they won a colonialist war in the 19th century. The last British governor of Hong Kong was a white dude appointed from London. What about Hong Kong?

“Only 17% of Hong Kongers say they want independence from China with just 20% saying China has abused the “one country, two systems” model to favor Beijing, a Reuters poll released on December 31 shows.”

What about the treatment of minorities?

Could you give us examples?

Most Americans approve of capitalism. Does that make it good too?

because “capitalism” and “communism” are loaded words

consider this though:

A year before the presidential election, three-quarters of Americans (76%) believe the country is headed in the wrong direction and the leading Democratic and Republican candidates are viewed broadly unfavorably, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll. Only 23% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction.

When asked whether things in their country are heading in the right direction, or are they off on the wrong track, 90 percent of the respondents from China taking part in this Ipsos survey said they were heading in the right direction.

They’re literally stealing children and indoctrinating them

Let’s say there’s a war going on, and let’s say there are war orphans, or children who were already orphans before the war
Let’s say these children are also native Russian speakers, like many many people in Eastern Ukraine

1. What should the Russian government do? Send these orphans to orphanages far from the front?

2. Or: put them on the bus and send them to the Ukrainian government where they ban the Russian language and there are Bandera pictures everywhere?

Do you seriously believe this is the same as what the Canadians did to the natives?

I think the extreme version of this, “stealing children”, is on the same level as the “Gaddafi ‘supplies troops with Viagra to encourage massremoved’”

90% support makes the whole thing more suspicious to me than anything.

True democracy is when a president has a 37% approval rating.

Alright I’m just joshing with you, but since you’re an anarchist you do agree with me on the following, right?

• The Western hegemony is dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. It suppresses voices that dissent from neoliberal dogmas and the military brinkmanship of NATO. It often violently clamps down grassroots movements like BLM or the Free Palestine protests. The Western parliaments consist of different flavours of neoliberalism, neoconservatism and fascism, and not a real representation of an actual “marketplace of ideas”, just a theatre of so-called politics.

acting like it’s a fucking utopia.

I don’t appreciate the strawmen.

China is a government that rules over billions of people. That is, by definition, evil.

Wait what? You’d prefer to Balkanize China into a several million anarchist direct democracy communes? Or what? How would that work in 2024?

Alright, please elaborate on your critical stance on China that is different from what is mainstream in US politics & journalism.

anarchistically

True anarchist stance is when your geopolitical opinions about the US’s rivals coincidentally align perfectly with that of the US State Department. It’s always the other side that is propagandized.

One thing that is different is the lack of government-critical sources available from China, also Russia.

Do you speak Chinese or Russian?