commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]

Unintended may be somewhat true, in that nobody explicitly had that as a conscious reason, but it was an obvious result that they could’ve known beforehand. So I don’t think it’s useful at all to call it unintended. Just an easily understood and expected side effect

Libs and your obsession with whataboutism. This one isn’t even “whatabout,” the point is that the guy in this picture was fine, and in fact the army did everything in their power not to harm him.

In a complete opposite fashion, US drone operators gleefully shot random people and caused unbelievable harm to an entire region.

I proudly defend whataboutism when it’s used to exemplify the necessity of some tactic elsewhere or to compare similar cases for better understanding. But this isn’t even that

Honestly, I see this text often quoted form the book but I don’t find it super useful as a way to understand fascism. The steps and reforms were all taken for a reason and people agreed with that reason, even the apprehensive agreed enough to stay seated. I think this “separation” isn’t the best thesis out of this book, because the Nazi Party didn’t shift too much in terms of popularity throughout these shifts, except to grow more popular during wartime. The government promised something and many accepted those conditions or at least lent moral license to the achieving the goal and were unwilling to oppose the conditions.

Fascism is Liberalism when and where Liberalism fails to accomplish it’s promises and must consume the people and stuff at the periphery to achieve its goals. A government is just as “far” from its people when it is doing good things that it’s people desire as when it does bad things.

I love the book but have major issues with the ideological assumptions, mostly surrounding fascism’s relationship to its people and to other ideologies

They Thought They Were Free. Book caused me to reevaluate exactly how politics at individual and social levels happened and how fascism works without any individual being inherently “evil.” Class politics and interests followed closely behind to explain how evil can arise among populations that all consider themselves “good people”

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Well you’re a dumbass if you can’t understand this lol. What the fuck does the American Civil War have to do with this? Nobody forced the slavers to make a separate country. Meanwhile the US forced the south of Korea to set up a government and refuse any discussion with the rest of Korea. You can define invasion however you want but it’s nonsense to define how you’re trying other “governments tm” being how you define it

Atrocity propaganda is a real phenomenon used by westerners to inflate problems of non-western societies and deflate the genocides done by the west. You’ve fallen for it

They mean Chinese apologists from the west.

I for one am not apologizing for much of anything really. Mistakes have been made but the party has grown from that and critiques those. None of these are what these anti-chinese people are saying though

Damn, gonna have to make a new account somewhere to keep up the attack then. LGB-without-T folks gotta be attacked into correctness

Someone can’t get past liberal definitionalism and thinks that the goal of LGBT+ alliances are based on necessary and sufficient conditions (“attraction, specific, others don’t count” claims) instead of understanding the goal of opposing a line of oppression everywhere it reaches. The way homophobia works is very similar to transphobia, so the fight is perfect to combine. Put the oppressors all on the wall because this chain of phobias will only change focus if you don’t end it at the root.

Then we have the gay fascists who want to just put others on the wall using similar oppression to appease their own oppressors. It’s the same function as fascists at the geographical edge of the imperialist/fascistic expropriation border.

Saying this for the people listening not to you, turtle power. You’re an asshole and only shame can possibly make you reconsider your assholery

How are you doing that except for voting for Biden? The class conscious workers who aren’t succeeding in spreading that are the ones at fault, like me (and you, though I’m not convinced of you being class conscious). I’m trying my best though, in many organizations around many topics, to push my analysis further and improve it and the organizations to reach the goals of socialism.

But they aren’t really swayed, they are playing the good guys to prevent riots. The role they fill, regardless of how any democrat personally feels, is the role of the small concession to prevent riot. It’s super helpful to capitalism to have a tiny outlet so that the major exploitation is ignored. It’s only “better” when you obsess with the short term goals and can’t see the projects over decades and across borders. Sometimes I get it, honestly, like I am never mad at comrades voting for the hope that trans and indigenous comrades aren’t genocided. But it’s just not good strategy to think about that decision for more than like 4 minutes a year because of the above stated functional argument.

We came to the conclusions because we want to avoid giving up. Once you realize that settling for “harm reduction” is also a form of giving up, you learn to think strategically and read people who think strategically about these things for real improvement. Like Lenin.

But also you changed the subject, I know that capitalists hated Stalin but I love him for that. Has nothing to do with the facts I stated, because Obama literally did worse than Nazino island in Libya lol, but he’s not a dictator because the way libs use the word is meaningless

Absurdly popular does not insinuate perfect, nor do I believe he was perfect nor all actions done in the government under his leadership. I do highly doubt these claims, seeing as they come from the guy who wrote the black book of communism (source for most of the wiki article) and Anne Applebaum included lol. If I had to guess, those people hated Stalin and the Soviet Union because an unplanned tragedy occurred which probably could’ve been forseen. During a drought and famine, the idea of sending people you can’t feed (or won’t give priority to because they are not working actively and improving the situation for all) to an island which is capable of being developed for agriculture to quickly do that isn’t the worst idea.

biggest point out of this: don’t trust people who write nazi propaganda (black book of communism and Anne Applebaum) and then relook at the story

My comrade there is making no claim that an anecdote proves something other than the claim that Stalin sadistically enjoyed starving people is false. The hope is that these specific events will trigger a thought in your head like “wow, this is totally out of character for this figure which I thought I understood,” and then possibly read further in books based on the Soviet archives instead of books utilizing only info from the cold war or nazi propaganda

Oh wow, a poor country was still poor 4 years after fighting the most tragic and destructive war in history?? I’m hearing this for the first time…

Stalin was as much of a dictator as any other leader with powers over the military (all in the western world, as far as I know) but otherwise was always working with the politburo and party. That’s what the CIA is admitting. I think determination of “dictator” or not is vibes based. What was he able to do that makes Stalin a dictator but let’s say Obama not?

Stalin was a leader for the proletariat, maybe a leader of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but he was absurdly popular and beloved because he really represented the interests of the poor in that position.

Good is never a perfectly internally consistent category, we always have to discuss it. We just don’t start with the incorrect preconception that there’s such things as universal definitions except as relative claims. “The only universal is the relative” or something like Hegel said.

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