Would a hand crank electric generator for a doorbell count?

I have a lamp my grandfather made out of an old moonshine jug in like the 40s.

I don’t believe for a second that the first attempt was legitimate.

Oops, my bad. My eyes fucked up the comment levels.

No, you’re confusing two separate issues.

If it’s before the point of sale, they can refuse any form of payment. If you’ve already accrued the debt, they can’t refuse it.

At no point in this entire chain was I talking about payment for goods and services. My original statement was about fines levied by the city or state, which is a debt that the debtor legally has to accept pennies for, or discharge the debt.

As a penis owner who sweats a lot, keeping things shaved helps prevent things from smelling funky.

Yes, you’re correct. That’s where the “debt” part comes in. If it’s before you incur the debt, they can refuse to accept any legal tender.

Yes it does. It’s a legal form of payment, and if a lender denies it, you can sue to have the entire debt discharged because the lender is refusing legal tender.

If you’re a debt holder, you’re required by federal law to accept any form of legal tender as payment, which includes coins.

Here’s the full article I got the statute from.

You should probably stop trying to speak authoritatively on a subject you clearly know nothing about.

Title 31 (Money and Finance), Subtitle IV (Money), Chapter 51 (Coins and Currency), Subchapter I (Monetary System), Section 5103 (Legal Tender) of the United States Code states:

United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.

Murder requires intent. Her intent was that the car would be running the whole time she was in the appointment. She wasn’t aware the car would shut off after an hour running in park.

That makes it negligent manslaughter.

The discussion is about fines. I’m not sure why you’re talking about lenders.

Also, Title 31 (Money and Finance), Subtitle IV (Money), Chapter 51 (Coins and Currency), Subchapter I (Monetary System), Section 5103 (Legal Tender) of the United States Code states:

United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.

So yes, there is a federal statue requiring private lenders accept coins as payment.

In the US, pennies are legal tender and have to be accepted as payment for debts owed. This tactic usually ended up in the fine being dismissed.

I know there’s been a few cases of people paying fines with wheelbarrows full of loose pennies.

She did leave the car running, but it shut off after an hour.

It’s still super negligent to leave a 1 and 2 year old alone in public for 2.5h, regardless of the weather.

Exactly. Even if it was 68F outside, it’s still extreme negligence.

Does she do it for her fuckups, though?

If you don’t have to sit through a bunch of ‘meetings that could have been emails’ on a daily basis, you likely won’t have a use case for it.

But in my last job I was a systems engineer for a web development company. I had to be included on all of the dev calls in case an infrastructure question came up that I needed to answer, and so I was vaguely aware of what the devs were doing.

This software would have been a lifesaver, because my ADHD doesn’t let me listen to stuff like that for a straight hour or two.

I hope that happens soon.

Microwaving a spoon will just heat up the spoon.