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  • Google fired a co-inventor of it.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timnit_Gebru

    Following her departure, Google held a forum to discuss experiences with racism at the company, and employees reported to NBC News that half of it was spent discrediting Gebru, which they took as the company making an example of her for speaking out. The forum was followed up with a group psychotherapy session for Google’s Black employees with a licensed therapist, which the employees said was dismissive

    It’s a real fucking laugh. It seems Google’s go to response to discrimination is to hire psychs to calm it’s employees. Real cyberpunk corpo shit. “Let’s fix your thinking.”

    @timnitGebru@dair-community.social







  • I think beyond that it’s purely the failure of the interviewer and not the tool. I think getting rid of the tool will just leave you with shitty interviewers and back to the same situation as you had before.

    I’ve given plenty of algorithmic driven assessments myself, though mine are generally much shorter and the weights on the questions much simpler (plus I know the actual reasons behind the weight of my questions and why I’m asking them). You can always intervene when someone’s lying and redirect them and can override the algorithm just like this Spanish policy. Lazy judges and police will exist without the tool.

    It might be helpful for the tool to include a label that the interviewer thinks the result is unreliable due to the evasiveness of the interviewee, if only to show where the problems are coming from.






  • Despite this article, I’m still not convinced that the algorithms aren’t better. The policy states that people need to use their best judgement and can override the algorithms. The article argues that the algorithms are being over relied on. The article mentions in passing, however, that the statistics were worse before the algorithm was introduced.

    The point of the matter is, best judgement can be shitty. Your average cop has no idea what questions to ask without a list and how important they are per research. Some suggestions are too continue using the tool but use things like psychologists to administer it. The only way you could reasonably have a psych on call for every police station is to make it a remote interview, which frankly doesn’t seem better to me.

    In the end, the unstated problem is resources and how best to utilize them to prevent the violence. I’m sure Spain’s policy could be improved but shoring it up with an algorithm is a good practice.