if everyone started to use p2p messengers with asymmetrical encryption, the EU would have very little they could do

Totally agree with you; a p2p network is resilient and unstoppable. Every user acts as a node within the p2p network, and as long as people are actively online, it can survive. This means it cannot be banned by any country or government.

Plus, since a P2P network is a decentralized network, there is no central server to store user data such as chat histories or contact lists**. From a data privacy perspective, nothing can compare with a p2p network.

I know people are quite familiar with Signal and Whatsapp due to their E2EE services. However, they are managed by tech companies and utilize a centralized network (central server = another computer). All your chat histories and data are kept in their giant computer/server. Even though it is encrypted, who in the world knows if they have memorized your private key (I think they do, by the way, because governments need these things to monitor suspicious activities or potential criminal incidents).

So, start using applications that operate on a decentralized P2P network; it is the safest way to safeguard your privacy rights.

It is not new.

Ditch centralized platforms.

TUCKER: “Media Matters is a censorship organization funded by George Soros and others who hate Western civilization designed to prohibit people from saying certain things.” And what they are prohibiting are the truth.

Manipulation can be stop by decentralization.

WireMin, Damus are both good choices.

An add on: WireMin, Session and SimpleX.

Since when they have the right to manage our personal info? When you click ‘term of service’

They are trying to steal more info from us, thats it

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Canada banning WeChat is a great idea, for the country’s security and privacy. Speak of that, look at what Elon is doing; he keeps trying to turn Twitter into WeChat, and he won’t stop until he makes it true!

In case you are not familiar with WeChat and the seriousness of its censorship toward users: 👇

We have to ditch centralized platforms for our own sake! And there are plenty of choices: Mastodon, Misskey, WireMin, Damus. (PS: WireMin is a combination of a private messenger & social media; it’s my favorite for now because I get to join chat groups for anonymous discussions.)

True, it depends.

Fediverse is a part of decentralization, but I think you are talking about P2P network.

You can think of it this way:

• Out of 100% of the power in the Fediverse network, 50% is owned by the instance/relay owner.
• The remaining 50% is distributed among all users using that relay. This gives the owner the authority to remove you from his or her relay.
• In a fully decentralized network(P2P network), 100% is distributed to every user. Everyone is equal; no individual has more privileges than another, and banning is not possible.

(Mastodon serves as a good example of Fediverse: you might get banned from an instance, but you can always create a new account on the same instance or join another one with fewer restrictions.)

(WireMin provides a clear example of Decentralized: in its chat rooms, no one can delete your messages, even if they’re the chat room owner. Moreover, no one can ban you within the WireMin social network.)

There are pros and cons.

Fediverse network:

Pros:

• Efficiency: The Fediverse network is more efficient than a fully decentralized network. It primarily relies on instances that can be hosted on cloud servers, traditional servers, or by powerful third parties hosting a server.

Cons:

• Possibility of banning.
• Privacy concerns: Data is stored on a cloud server.

P2P network:

Pros:

• Privacy security: Data is not stored on a central server.
• No banning or censorship.

Cons:

• Stability depends on user count: The efficiency of a decentralized network depends on having a large user base. The more users there are, the more efficient and stable the network can be.

Well you are here already, Lemmy is good. Others?

Mastodon, join instance in your interests.

Damus, I like it better before, its kinda full of spam now.

WireMin, its kind of different tho, it can be a private messenger, I like to join some chat rooms, you can talk anonymously there, and chat room owners can’t remove your message, of course you can post stuff on your own Feed like tweeting.

Monitoring

Spying

Banning

Ghosting

Subscription

Use my data to train AI

Keep going plz …

I guess…full of sh*t.

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A privacy focused social media? Cuz if ‘just a chat app’, SimpleX or Session probably meets more

For some clarification:

You first need to understand the meaning of “dapp”: dapp stands for decentralized application.

“Decentralized” means there is no central server.

Central server: This is essentially a cloud storage that retains data. Major tech companies like Google, Twitter, and Facebook all have central servers where they store user data, such as chat histories, usernames, passwords, contact lists, and online activities. They might sell this data to advertisers. Platforms like Twitter might use it to train their AI models or refine algorithms to predict users’ interests, thereby keeping users engaged with their platforms or apps. Moreover, a centralized platform can be likened to a paradise for hackers, as they only need to breach one server to obtain a wealth of sensitive data. (I assume everybody knows cloud is just another computer.)

On the other hand, “decentralized”, as the term suggests, means there’s no central server. Consequently:

• Your data isn’t stored on a central server (someone else’s computer); you keep your own security.
• No one can moderate or remove your content, ensuring free speech and avoiding censorship.
• No entities, like Google for example, can access data such as your browsing history.
• Your account is less susceptible to hacks since there isn’t a singular server to target, unless of course, you share your password.

The reason a search for “dapp” often leads to results about cryptocurrencies is that networks like WireMin are decentralized. “Decentralized” in the current context often relates to web3. Today, when most people aim to learn about or enter the realm of web3, they’re introduced to concepts like cryptocurrency and NFTs.

However, to me, web3 signifies more than just the crypto world; it embodies the decentralized (or democratic) concept. Big tech companies represent the web2 era since they operate in a centralized and often monopolistic manner, influencing our perceptions by controlling media content. Personally, I find this concerning, which is why I’m gradually transitioning to decentralized networks like WireMin and messaging platforms like SimpleX, while WireMin offers similar functionalities, Signal does not.

I think I explained myself clear, thank you. 🫠

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Write it down

What if I use decentralized app? All there services are unrelated to the ios system or others, would that be safe? Cuz I am currently using one, and all the service might need users data, they stay away from it, or askusers permission first.

That’s werid, maybe is Zuck afraid of getting su again by eu lmao