• monobot@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I think the only people here not wanting to defederate from fb are trolls.

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      1 year ago

      “Everyone who disagrees with me is a troll” - terrible take.

      I’ve seen two reasons to defederate, one is a “lack of trust”, which is hilarious because you’re on an open platform and you really shouldn’t “trust” anyone here, and if you think defederation is going to keep corporate interests out of the fediverse as it grows… Lol

      The other is an overwhelming change in content, which I think is the only fair reason to defederate.

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        “Everyone who disagrees with me is a troll” - terrible take.

        That take of that take is a terrible take. In fact, it’s a circular argument because one could argue that you are, yourself, overgeneralizing anyone who has a dissenting opinion from your own.

        People are allowed to like or dislike what they like or dislike. If you feel marginalized because your opinion is unpopular, whining about it doesn’t/won’t change anyone’s minds.

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          We need to go deeper, this take of my take of that take is a terrible take.

          I never said I felt marginalized, I never whined, I never said people can’t dislike what I like, and I clearly don’t care about having an unpopular opinion or I would’ve left Lemmy by now lol.

          You’ve essentially made my point for me, which is that an opinion does not make someone a troll just because you disagree. Discussing in bad faith is what makes someone a troll, e.g. pulling strawman arguments out of your ass

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        1 year ago

        Lack of trust has nothing to do with being an open platform. Or rather, its a very stupid argument to tell that there is no reason because its a open platform.

        Everyone on activityhub is mostly non-profit and dont have the intention to be the number one and rich. Meta/Facebook on the other hand is trying to be number one and extinguish everything. Aka EEE

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          1 year ago

          And your evidence they’re coming in to “extinguish” the “threat” of at most a few milion fediverse users is a failed Microsoft playbook from the 90s that didn’t even target open source software? Lol alright

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            1 year ago

            The evidence is just not really given, its a conclusion because Facebook is a pure capitalistic company that loves to break laws for money. Why would they not wont to be the number one?

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              Well first of all, I don’t have to provide evidence to disprove a statement you made without evidence.

              Second, my point is that they’re a capitalist company, that’s exactly why they want to be the only one with your data.