Aaron Keller pledged to improve the game for “players who are playing now.”

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    Based on what?

    The negatives are extremely bad, and people are legitimately reviewing the game negatively because they legitimately think it’s a pile of shit.

    It is literally unconditionally impossible for it to be a review bomb if the reviews are motivated by the core design decisions of the game.

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      Today’s concurrent player peak is ~47k.

      Why would 47k people choose to play the game when it’s the worst game on Steam? Literally worse than a game like Bad Rats: the Rats’ Revenge that fundamentally doesn’t function correctly. For reference, its peak today was about 20 players.

      Before you reply with something like “marketing”, you seriously think that if Bad Rats launched today, and with the same marketing budget as OW2, that it would achieve anywhere close to 47k players peak 10 months after its release?

      Like I said: you’re disconnected from reality if you think OW2 is the worst game on Steam.

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          deliberately steal a game people liked to replace it with an addiction machine

          what the actual fuck are you talking about

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            The reason Overwatch 2 is the worst reviewed game Steam has ever had?

            A bad game does a lot less harm than a game that seems good on the surface then tries to rob you blind.

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              by “tries to rob you blind” you mean a game with entirely optional additional purchases?

              wow you’re right they really get you with that “you can pay if you want” model

              it’s practically criminal definitely worthy of being the worst ranked game on steam

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                  then please explain why Counter Strike Global Offensive, Team Fortress 2, Dota 2, etc. don’t deserve to have the same rating

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                    As far as I’m concerned they do. But my opinion doesn’t decide the rating of a game any more than yours that’s it’s supposedly a better game than bad rats.

                    It’s a product of everyone who votes giving their opinion, and the entire steam userbase has come to the consensus that Overwatch 2 is a particularly egregious example of it.

                    It cannot possibly be a review bomb when the reviews are legitimate opinions based on what the game is.

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            The original Overwatch, which had none of this shit and was a one-off payment, was killed off in favour of OW2

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              leaving a negative review because of that would by definition be review bombing, because at that point you’re not reviewing the game, but external context that surrounds it

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                Not really. Reviewing the game as OW with enshittification is a perfectly reasonable review of OW2 in and of itself.

                Especially if the publishers made the one-off purchase version unusable just to push people onto the enshittified one.

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                  “i liked overwatch 1” is not a valid review of the game overwatch 2, and people leaving reviews to that effect en-masse is pretty textbook review bombing

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                    Yes it is. It’s perfectly valid.

                    It says that the changes in Overwatch 2 are unpopular with the reviewer.

                    If the changes were positive or even unnoteworthy, that review wouldn’t be there

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        You are really trying to downplay the power of marketing, but you seem to realize that gets people playing. Not only that but live service design is very effective at keeping people playing even when they are not having any fun whatsoever. Because they gotta grind the battle pass and such. Extrinsic rewards and habit-forming conditioning making up for a lack of intrinsic enjoyment.

        Still, I would agree with you that it’s not the worst game on Steam, but like I mentioned in the other comment, that’s not what steam ratings mean. It means that the vast majority people would not recommend it, and that seems pretty reasonable.

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          bf2042 had a playercount in the high 1000s 2 months after its launch

          ow2 released 10 months ago

          are you saying bf2042 didn’t have marketing?

          which is more likely:

          • 50k people have been brainwashed into playing the game every day, and similar numbers into watching it on twitch
          • there is review bombing
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              i mean i ignored the second part because it was irrelevant

              “You’re entirely disconnected to reality if you think Overwatch 2 deserves to be the worst-reviewed game on Steam.” doesn’t say “deserves to be the worst game”, so if we’re playing the reading game maybe you should take the first turn

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                Oh, so you have no response to it so you are gonna pretend it doesn’t matter. I see.

                I could say I’d do the same but nothing you are saying now even addresses what I already responded to you, so I’ll just call it a job done.