• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    What about Harris voters, who also support genocide?

    I totally get not wanting to break bread with Nazis. But to sit with Harris supporters and not Trumpers projects more concern with vibes than actual policies and outcomes. You’re just showing a preference for blue Nazis over red ones at that point.

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      Your “whataboutism” would mean a whole lot more if Trump wasn’t even more into genocide than Harris and Biden. So your entire “vibes” retort is complete bullshit, and if you don’t know it, then you aren’t paying attention. If you do know it, then you’re lying to yourself and everybody around you.

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        LoL. It’s wild that you wrote this thinking you were making a good point. You really think you’re not also fascists, while arguing there’s acceptable degrees of genocide support?

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      This sort of bad-faith whataboutism is exactly what the Republicans and the oligarchs want: keep everyone left of Dick Cheney infighting so they never win again. And it’s working super well, especially here on Lemmy.

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        I’m actually arguing against infighting in this instance. I personally believe both Trump and Harris voters should be ashamed of what they’ve supported.

        But I don’t see why they shouldn’t get along with each other. Seems they have a lot of common ground. Their policies are so similar, the Harris campaign had a lot of trouble differentiating her platform, and had to resort to weak attacks like ‘Trump is WEIRD!’

        Both camps support mass deportations, increased fossil fuel extraction, support for genocide in Israel, escalating tensions with China & Russia, increased police budgets, etc. Both full-throated support for a flavor of capitalist fascism. They certainly have more in common with each other than anyone on the left. And they both support the rapists & genocidal criminals in their party of preference. Doesn’t seem the Trumpers nor Harris supporters are in any position to be acting too smug to associate with the other.

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          I’m actually arguing against infighting in this instance.

          proceeds to continue infighting

          Mmm-hmm.

          No, I get what you’re saying, but your false equivalency just isn’t working because you’re conveniently ignoring the absolutely dire parts of Trump’s policies.

          “No, the sandwiches are the same!”

          “…one of them is sauerkraut and toadstool with arsenic sauce, and the other is bologna and ketchup…?”

          “But they both have BREAD!”

          Look, I’m not interested in re-litigating this. You got what you wanted, Harris lost. Trump is predictably doing awful things because Harris lost. This is the world you chose. Now what?

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            2 hours ago

            Can you please point out the significant policy differences to me? I don’t see them. Neither did much of the electorate.

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              Look, I’m not interested in re-litigating this. You got what you wanted, Harris lost. Trump is predictably doing awful things because Harris lost. This is the world you chose. Now what?

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                  59 minutes ago

                  Look, I’m not interested in re-litigating this. You got what you wanted, Harris lost. Trump is predictably doing awful things because Harris lost. This is the world you chose. Now what?