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  • I think you are massively overestimating how many of his fans would go anywhere, and how long they tag along. I used to play a social deduction game town of Salem, can’t say I know exactly how large the playerbase was… but I’d estimate it on the lower side, probably significantly under 50k. There were a few times Pewdiepie did a video on the game, and yeah, he was a pain in the ass, because he didn’t try to learn the game, so his video was basically him trolling around in the game screaming random stuff, completely ruining things for people who wanted to play the game, and players could basically count on a few days afterwards of, having games ruined by his fans doing the same crap of course. However it certainly wasn’t millions of them, within a few days the game mostly went back to normal… with if anything a slight boost to the number of players, because a handful stuck around and actually learned the game.

    and again this is with much longer ago pewdiepie… way younger fanbase, way larger more active following. Today’s pewdiepie, that’s still following, and I guess bothering to pay attention to his videos on rigging up gadgets with raspberry pi’s, and installing archlinux with hyprland, and apparently this one on getting off google. I’d imagine… the amount of people following him are going to be waay smaller than that, he hasn’t been doing gaming videos in at least a year, seems to be more of basic tech comentary and general lifestyle location things.

    So in short, if he did a lemmy push, first off I’d imagine actually the blip from it being very small. Unless steam charts suddenly show 100 million new archlinux users or something, I can guess his influence today is probably pretty small, and second the type of people he’d attract are probably also drastically different than the edgy teen base we remember him for, and lastly even at his peak of popularity and immaturity, the influx wasn’t quite as big as you are thinking it is.


  • and then his allegedly support of nazis.

    The nazi one IMO was pretty BS. Largely it came from him playing a game, and commenting that other people were trolling putting up swastika’s etc…

    Which I’ll admit, he handled the criticism poorly, did mostly the wrong things because he found it more of a joke than a real thing. He rightly noted that one of the critics was JK Rowling, who he fairly pointed out had no business calling anyone such. When Charlottsville happened is when he actually gave what I considered a pretty sincere fair apology where he basically noted, "holy shit I thought I was being accused of something that didn’t exist, I didn’t realize that nazi’s are actually still so prevelant in modern society so I wasn’t taking things seriously.

    Now afterwords him dropping the n bomb on a stream was pretty damn bad, though he apologized and admitted it. Still kind of falls into the fact that he’d been paid for years to join in games with a bunch of edgy teenagers, and at the end of the day if you spend too much time with a group of people, you are going to slip up and talk like them.

    Again not calling him a great guy or anything, but I’d say everything in him strikes me as a kid that never grew up (because his life was basically set up encouraging him not to), didn’t understand the weight of a lot of the things he was around, and made a bunch of childish stupid mistakes.


  • 8 I believe was the last in their “tick tock” strategy…

    IE “ticks” were the ones where they threw a bunch of stuff at the wall to see what sticks, basically putting users as paying beta testers.

    “Tocks” were when they’d basically look at the piles of complaints from their ticks, try and fix as many as they could, and impliment some of the small features people wanted.

    Ticks: Win 95, Win ME + 2000, Vista, Windows 8.

    Tocks: Win 3.1, Win 98, Win XP, Windows 7, "sorta windows 10, hard to really say that model was made to be the start of more or less a auto upgrading by default as the new normal)



  • I mean theoretically things could be anonymized for the AI, with only the charts with identifiers present, I’d imagine assuming the AI itself stays locked into the EHR system and isn’t say outsourced to one of the big AI firms. With those conditions it’s, roughly the same privacy as the existance of EHR in general.

    As far as practical/legal/ethical, that comes down to how they market it to doctors. Personally I think it could be a useful tool for a doctor to “second opinion” himself. IE reach his own conclusion first, then hit the AI, see if it noticed something he missed. Though the obvious fear is of course going to be lazy or rushed doctors, working in a hospital that’s pushing them to see the most patients possible in an hour, rewarding the doctors that walk in, hand the patient their AI diagnosis, and move into the next room. Which… well in modern America we all know this is what’s going to be pushed.

    The tools have amazing potential when used appropriately… but for profit healthcare has all the wrong incentives, and they will see this as a tool to magnify them.


  • Valid… but also have to point out he hit big as a celebrity. When you are literally raking in millions of dollars. He was about 21 when he started his channel. and bottom line is, he got views, he got likes, and it turned into real cash. Most of our jobs etc… encourage us to grow up. His job, rewarded him for catering to his base… which of were younger than him.



  • I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.


  • I would say there’s room for discussion, but one of the biggest things I’d note the largest one is, generally race itself isn’t a concept that fits. Biologically the difference between white and black people is smaller than the difference between white and other white people.

    Now I would note the biggest things of all forms is, just taking out the unnecessary divisions in general. Good news is for the most part the problems that “identifying as a different race”, are inherently knocked out with general societal progress. IE if you are a white person that identifies as black, you don’t need to worry about getting into the black schools, or use the black bathrooms, because we already knocked out that problem.

    Honestly that would be a nice step for society if we could hit that point in gender. Bathrooms and locker rooms are already just a general problem when we note genders and orientations aren’t the same. IE why do we segregate bathrooms? Because we are worried that someone might see genitals of an opposite gender? Why isn’t that equally as much an issue, or not real issue when we account for the existence of homosexuals? IMO the real solution is simply either the world needs to get less prudish and sensitive to the existance of non sexual nudity. Or just set things up to not mandate shared nudity. (IE allow actual privacy for showers and bathrooms.

    Now one thing I do agree with on is, the concept of “cultural appropriation” etc… IE I do think anyone of any race shouldn’t face criticism for wearing clothing etc… of other cultures, provided they are doing so respectfully (IE not combining doing so and intentionally making a characature of stereotypes of the culture they are imitating.

    My girlfriend wouldn’t even comprehend the concept of “identifying as black”, but 80% of her friends are black. She enjoys going to a nail salon that is almost all black women working, and loves talking to them. So I suppose the big thing I’m lacking is an understanding of where someone who identifies as trans-racial, actually see’s as their roadblocks. Because generally speaking, there’s not a logical reason to “identify” as a race. For the mot part just general racial equality groups have done well at removing restrictions on places you can and can’t go based on race. There’s no racial pronouns so there’s not a conversational issue where you would be constantly undermining in normal conversation.

    So the big question is, what it that as a society a trans-racial person wants? What rights do they need to be accepted, because for the most part, just racial equality is already fighting for acceptance in a way that renders most of it moot.


  • Agreed, AI just like all media, has the biggest question of “is it fueling bias’s, or just reflecting them”. It’s drawing what people think of when they see something.

    It isn’t racist for me to say, getting pulled over for no reason is far more likely if your skin is darker, it’s just what society is.

    and that’s of course before we talk about the general discussion of actually effective ways to deal with obesity in society… which is more complicated. Obviously directly shaming, has a negative impact. Making someone with an eating disorder feel shitty about themselves, makes it harder to overcome the disorder. At the same time saying it’s not a problem for them to face at all is also not going to help them want to change.



  • I mean only talking about his public image that he maintained. Gates kept the public image of, I’m a quiet boring nerd who’s running a company and helping charities where I can. IE very different public image than zuck who hit a phase where he just publicly wanted to be seen as a ripped martial artist fighter surfer with 6 pack etc… or even Elon Musk who clearly had MAJOR work done on his hair etc…

    What gates did privately agreed, who knows what the heck he was up to, but the key point is, he didn’t work to advertise to the world that he was cool.




  • to me I still use the paid version because, for me it’s not that expensive on the family plan, and I do want the content creators to get paid. I do hate the monopoly etc… but as far as I can tell it’s one that can’t really be broken. Far as I can see no other site can actually arrange a system in which creators get paid any substantial amount.

    also do have to note the inevitable put up or shut up part of nature. There’s basically only 2 options of systems when it comes to the internet, either we deal with ads or we pay for services. Until a magical extra option appears I’m OK with paying to avoid ads.


  • I don’t see how anyone can blame you for this oppinion, and I’ll happily say I agree 100%. It’s basically known for a fact that anywhere sex work is unregulated, unmonitored etc… are almost universally used by traffickers, underage participants etc… and if we are talking video hosting, then revenge porn etc… Gotta fully agree, this is the category I want the site operators across the board to have the government breathing down their neck saying “You better damn well do everything humanly possible to prove this video was made with uncoerced consent of someone old enough to make that choice”.