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  • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoFuck AI@lemmy.worldFuck up a book for me please
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    5 months ago

    I’m not balking at communicating what I think the line is, either by trying to define it or by listing some things on one side and some on the other, because it’s hard, although it is. I’m not doing it for two main reasons, no one else should give a damn what my line is and I wouldn’t want to list a book that I thought was shallow fun when someone else could have related to it in a profound way. I don’t want to shit on someone else’s experiences.

    I think your being dishonest and pretentious when you say the line doesn’t exist. Plenty of books I’ve read lately, and enjoyed enough I’m looking forward to the next things from those authors, are not in the same league as things I would consider art. This is true for all forms of art/media. Jerry Springer is not art like (insert what you think is the best expression of art on the small screen here). Battlefield Earth is not art like (insert whatever you think fits here). Are you seriously going to try and pull some smug insufferable “everything is art” bullshit here?

    I never said there is anything wrong with a good translation even though it obviously can’t be perfect and something is almost certainly lost. My French is never going to be good enough to read Camus, so I have to settle for a translation.

    But that’s not how this started. Before you started your “the line doesn’t exist”, “Shakespeare is overrated”, “aren’t I just so smart” auto-fellatio session, you defended butchering art with ai in the name of allowing ESL students to read it.

    No one who wants anything more than an entertaining read should use this, ESL or otherwise. If you’re going to read something with the hope that it’s more than just entertainment, you should try to avoid any further opinions or analysis on it, avoid TV or movie adaptions, not read the Cliff’s notes, and not use this fucking app. If you’re going to use the app, use it for something you don’t expect to get anything more than a bit of fun out of. And if you think you’ll never have the necessary level of mastery, or just don’t want to wait, find a good translation.

    Using this app on anything you would consider art is indefensible. I have a hard time believing this is anything more than you being bored and feeling contrary.


  • Oops, sorry, I thought I was replying to someone else.

    I apologize for coming in so hot. I really do think entertainment and art appreciation ideally go together and didn’t need to be explicitly said. I’m not in the habit of choosing to do anything I don’t think I could enjoy. Forcing something for intellectual enrichment has it’s place for schoolchildren, or if you feel the need for it as an adult, but these days I don’t have the bandwidth. Maybe in retirement when there is more time.


  • I’m not sure if I said something to offend you or if you just woke up this morning and decided to spend the day being a pedantic twat, but I’ll pretend you’re being genuine.

    I thought being entertained by appreciating art would have gone without saying. But if you’re such a sad sack you can’t be entertained by art…well, I guess that goes a long way toward explaining your attitude.


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    5 months ago

    Ultimately, every individual reader I suppose. But don’t be obtuse, when you pick up a book I think you know if it’s just a fun read or if you’re expecting it to be something more. Either due to a particular person’s opinion, or the opinion of society in general.

    If someone is reading something they would like to appreciate as art, as opposed to entertainment, I don’t think it’s out of bounds to suggest they might enjoy it more if they waited until they mastered the language enough to appreciate the prose.


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    5 months ago

    Simplified language for learners is great. But I would suggest to learners that they use this on books that are for entertainment and save real literature for after they have the proficiency to enjoy it as it was written.

    Sure, they could always reread it unaltered later, but you only get to read something for the first time once.



  • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoMemes@lemmy.mlWhy haven't you taken the bear pill?
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    7 months ago

    The thing these arguments never take into account is a fate worse than death.

    That’s the point you’re missing.

    Think about why someone would prefer the much more likely bear mauling to the much less likely worst case scenario with a man. If you can wrap your head around that, then consider why these women had that answer ready to go with very little thought. Considerations of a fate worse than death is something that women live with from the age where they first notice grown men noticing them. That averages 11 or 12 years old by the way. Maybe younger if their parents were a little more candid with them than the generic “stranger danger.”





  • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoFediverse@lemmy.world*Permanently Deleted*
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    8 months ago

    I see this as a positive. Instead of being fed content to keep me engaged by an algorithm until I suddenly realize the day is almost over and I didn’t really enjoy myself, I reach a point where I feel like I’m done for the day then I make plans, play a game, read, etc.

    Now I read the news, fuck around on lemmy a bit, then actually get on with a “real” day.





  • Then he did The Pentagon Wars, an HBO movie back when HBO still made good stuff. It’s a true story and I saw an interview with the military guy he was playing. Dude said something like: “I checked out the guy who was playing me and in two previous movies he wore tights.”

    If you haven’t seen it, you should. It’s a fucking hilarious comedy of errors about the defense procurement process and design by committee.


  • I watched the miniseries then the show, and there was some additional stuff I watched also but I don’t remember exactly when. There was a spinoff called Caprica, it was good but never got a second season.

    Here is a watch order that includes a couple movies and webseries, but it puts Caprica at the beginning. It is a prequel but I think it would be better watching it after everything else like it was released.

    Edit: if I remember correctly Caprica either has some serious spoilers or there are some things you wouldn’t understand if you hadn’t seen the main show, I don’t want to say anything more but I don’t know why they recommend it first.