Strypey

@Hexadecimalkink
> Did peerfed ever figure out the bandwidth issues? Is there a way this can scale?

If this is the PeerFed you meant, I’m guessing the answer to both these questions is ‘no’;

“This paper has been archived and no longer reflects the author’s current thinking.”

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper

Although I do find this concept intriguing;

“The system consists of two convertible assets, interest-bearing cash and a paid-in-kind perpetual bond.”

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper/blob/main/peerfed.pdf

@yogthos

@yogthos
> An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

The loops.video announcement by @dansup is here;

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112569573022384441

@regalia
> Are you replying from Mastodon right now

Yes. Here’s the post you just replied to, on the public-facing web page of the Mastodon server I use:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110943135468924731

@regalia
> the algo for active/hot favor large communties, so smaller ones tend not to show up on the front page

I presume it’s the same as what determines which posts appear on the front page of a Mastodon server; chronological order of posts. That would favour the larger communities, since people post there more often.

The other limiting factor, I presume, is a Lemmy server only knows about the communities its accounts are members of. Larger communities will have members on more servers.

@regalia
> our algo doesn’t do a good job of promoting smaller communities

Lemmy has an algo for that?

@SupraMario

@deadsuperhero
> development of a Go-based backend implementation, Dendrite

Also Rust-based homeserver implementations like Construct and Conduit. Both of which are usable, although missing a few nice-to-have added features. Eg Conduit is still working on;

“E2EE emoji comparison over federation (E2EE chat works)… Outgoing read receipts, typing, presence over federation”

@Terevos @Samsy

@deadsuperhero
> the reference implementation everyone uses by default is known to be bloated and slow, and poor at scaling

This doesn’t seem to stop the fediverse growing (*cough* Mastodon *cough*).

@Terevos

@smileyhead
> But noone figured out how to prevent that in federated systems

You’ve basically got a choice been a centralised service where metadata can be limited but E2EE is mostly pointless (you have to trust the service operators’ E2EE deployment), or a decentralised network where E2EE is reliable, but it’s harder to limit metadata.

Which one is best depends on the situation/ threat model.

@AngryDemonoid

@deadsuperhero
> I’d really love to see a “modern” WhatsApp-like take on an XMPP messenger, but I haven’t found any

Have you looked at @snikket_im ?

@poVoq @lps

@Rambi
> but how come your username says @null?

No idea. Maybe a bug in your app? Maybe something to do with the fact I’m posting from a Mastodon server rather than Lemmy server?

@theKalash
> Lemmy neads a feature where people can “merge” communities from different instances so it appears like a single one

I’m confused by this. I’ll admit I haven’t used Lemmy much yet, but I thought communities do exist across all servers? So if I join “c/fediverse” on any one server, and you join “c/fediverse” on any other server, we’re joining the same community. Is that not how it works?

@Blaze

@itadakimasu
Plus, the Lemmy servers are part of a much larger network; the fediverse. Not just other forum apps like KBin either. Right now I’m replying to this from Mastodon.

I have an alt on a .nz Lemmy server, but haven’t got into the habit of using it yet. So at least some of the perceived shrinkage *is* due to that, rather than any failure of the network. Also due to spam and troll accounts being purged.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

@itadakimasu
> there’s only 60k of us? And that’s a good thing?

A centralised platform is a numbers game. The money for upgrading servers for growth has to come from one company, and if the platform shrinks it gets harder to get a return on that spending.

It just doesn’t matter as much in a federated network. The cost of growth is spread across many servers. Some of which will end up shutting down, for a range of reasons. But others have room for growth.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan