I use Ubuntu. I think it’s funny how Arch users immediately assume they know more about Linux than me because of my distro choice. My hobby is learning about Linux and I can do that perfectly from my Ubuntu machine.
I’ve used Arch in the past, and let me tell you, nothing crazy is going on in there.
Yes, Ubuntu sucks because they are forcing Snaps on people while snaps are slow as hell. Thankfully they haven’t fully shoved snaps down our throats. If they don’t make snaps faster before shoving them down my throat, I’ll just distro hop. Probably to Debian. I love Debian.
Arch user here. I have no idea what I’m doing. Killing Floor just crashed my graphics card or something to crash and my monitors aren’t working after reboots. Oh god
They do know this is a popular myth spread around by the antiquities of debian/mint/ubuntu users who wait a few years for Arch users to locate any bugs.
I went from Ubuntu to Arch and I think I’m here to stay. Ubuntu was unstable for me for some reason. I would get freezes and crashes all the time. I feel like Canonical is making things slower and bloated but I have had pretty smooth experiences with Linux mint. On Arch I’ve been getting amazing uptime. But to each ones own, if you like it, who am I to judge.
One of my favorite features of arch is the aur, and because manjaro lags behind arch releases, you can run into trouble. If you want arch without the install difficulties, I would try something like endeaver os or garuda. You’ll end up with actual arch in the end and you wont end up with some of outdated certs or whanever manjaro ucks up nowadays.
Mine too, but I did switch because I needed to reinstall and I would have just swiched out most of the tools that come preinstalled, to the point I didn’t know why I would even use manjaro instead of arch if I’m reinstlling everything anyway…
People on the internet say to read the wiki and follow the directions but I’m a much more visual learner. If you follow this video, you should be all good if you want to use vanilla Arch. I do not have experience with Manjaro but one of my friends said he used it once and he enjoyed it. Though his cmos battery died and the OS bricked so he switched to Linux Mint. Installing arch might take around 30 min or an hour so it’s not the hardest thing ever. I would recommend the archinstall script but that has never worked for me, if you can manage to use that script, setup is even easier.
I second this. I’m a casual Linux user for hosting personal things at home. I’m not a tech professional. I use Ubuntu because I typically don’t know how to do things on my own, so I need to be able to find guides.
I’ll never understand the Linux community in that aspect. We want the market share to grow but always clown on the Ubuntu users, who make up the majority of our market share. If you use Ubuntu, you’re already far ahead than OSX/Win users who complain Apple/Microsoft did a change they don’t like but still remain hostage in their ecosystem.
Exactly. I’ve run Linux almost exclusively for more than 20 years. I did the whole roll-my-own thing for a while. Now most of the computers I deal with regularly run mostly-stock Ubuntu.
“Oh god, they will immediately be able to tell I am a fraud who has no idea what he’s doing when I tell them I use Ubuntu”
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When I hear someone uses Mint I think “ah, they use better Ubuntu.”
Either mint or pop
Ubuntu is fine and I actually am on Ubuntu after using Arch for many years
Isn’t Arch a lot of manual compilation? Like I do that shit for work, I don’t want to do it in my free-time too.
No, Arch has recompiled packages. Maybe you think of Gentoo?
Even then it’s not “manual compilation”, it’s all automated.
Ah, I’m probably thinking of Gentoo, yes.
manual compilation aka >compile this like-this
no
I use Ubuntu. I think it’s funny how Arch users immediately assume they know more about Linux than me because of my distro choice. My hobby is learning about Linux and I can do that perfectly from my Ubuntu machine.
I’ve used Arch in the past, and let me tell you, nothing crazy is going on in there.
Yes, Ubuntu sucks because they are forcing Snaps on people while snaps are slow as hell. Thankfully they haven’t fully shoved snaps down our throats. If they don’t make snaps faster before shoving them down my throat, I’ll just distro hop. Probably to Debian. I love Debian.
Arch users HAVE to know a lot because their updates break it conatantly
Arch user here. I have no idea what I’m doing. Killing Floor just crashed my graphics card or something to crash and my monitors aren’t working after reboots. Oh god
Honestly I’ve found it to be surprisingly stable, and the only time the system broke, it was my own fault.
It sounds like you have used it extensively then, because the myth is spread by people who never tried.
They do know this is a popular myth spread around by the antiquities of debian/mint/ubuntu users who wait a few years for Arch users to locate any bugs.
come on this is getting old, people are sitting on multi year systems that have never broke…
I went from Ubuntu to Arch and I think I’m here to stay. Ubuntu was unstable for me for some reason. I would get freezes and crashes all the time. I feel like Canonical is making things slower and bloated but I have had pretty smooth experiences with Linux mint. On Arch I’ve been getting amazing uptime. But to each ones own, if you like it, who am I to judge.
I’m considering leaving Ubuntu. I’m currently looking at Manjaro because I don’t think I have enough time to invest in learning arch. Any tips?
One of my favorite features of arch is the aur, and because manjaro lags behind arch releases, you can run into trouble. If you want arch without the install difficulties, I would try something like endeaver os or garuda. You’ll end up with actual arch in the end and you wont end up with some of outdated certs or whanever manjaro ucks up nowadays.
While you’re absolutely correct, in my personal experience Manjaro has been perfectly stable even with somewhat heavy use of the AUR.
Mine too, but I did switch because I needed to reinstall and I would have just swiched out most of the tools that come preinstalled, to the point I didn’t know why I would even use manjaro instead of arch if I’m reinstlling everything anyway…
https://github.com/arindas/manjarno read this before you move
People on the internet say to read the wiki and follow the directions but I’m a much more visual learner. If you follow this video, you should be all good if you want to use vanilla Arch. I do not have experience with Manjaro but one of my friends said he used it once and he enjoyed it. Though his cmos battery died and the OS bricked so he switched to Linux Mint. Installing arch might take around 30 min or an hour so it’s not the hardest thing ever. I would recommend the archinstall script but that has never worked for me, if you can manage to use that script, setup is even easier.
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I moved to simpler distros after years of using Arch and derivatives… I just can’t be arsed any more.
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Honestly, it’s kinda my default general purpose linux distro at this point. Set it up bare bones and headless, rip out
snap, and do what you want.I rolled Debian for a long time, but now use Ubuntu as there’s a lot more online guides on how to do stuff in Ubuntu than in any other distro (IME)
I second this. I’m a casual Linux user for hosting personal things at home. I’m not a tech professional. I use Ubuntu because I typically don’t know how to do things on my own, so I need to be able to find guides.
Someone should make that bell curve meme where on the extremes they say “(i) use ubuntu”, while mid is arch 'n stuff.
I’ll never understand the Linux community in that aspect. We want the market share to grow but always clown on the Ubuntu users, who make up the majority of our market share. If you use Ubuntu, you’re already far ahead than OSX/Win users who complain Apple/Microsoft did a change they don’t like but still remain hostage in their ecosystem.
who wants that market share to grow other than kids?
Nothing wrong with that! I’ve been using linux for nearly a decade, and after your distro hopping phase, most people settle into something like ubuntu
Exactly. I’ve run Linux almost exclusively for more than 20 years. I did the whole roll-my-own thing for a while. Now most of the computers I deal with regularly run mostly-stock Ubuntu.