• Candelestine@lemmy.caEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    Yea, I switched to this alt. It appears to be one of the assistant admins accts. Seems like an old fashioned anon prank, to me, they’re mainly just trying to make stuff offensive and redirect people to lemonparty.

    So, y’know, old school.

    I don’t know if any data is actually in danger, but I doubt it. I don’t see why assistant admins would need access to it.

    • hawkwind@lemmy.managementEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      All the bean memes are in danger! On a serious note, old-skool or not, it’s a huge loss of trust in something the community-at-large is excited to see replace reddit.

      • Candelestine@lemmy.caEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        Par for the course. This system will never be immune to things like that. That’s part of what happens when you decentralize your power. Instead of a single target that can be made highly secure, you have a distributed array of targets.

        People should certainly be engaging on here with full awareness of the reality of the Fediverse, not expecting reddit 2.0. We never will be able to offer exactly what they did. We’ll be naturally worse in some areas and naturally better in others.

        • Philolurker@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          This is why I’m glad I made redundant accounts on multiple instances. When there are problems on lemmy.world, I can just hop on over to another. That’s never been an option with Reddit.

          Now if there was only a way to export or sync user settings like subscriptions, it would be perfect.

        • hawkwind@lemmy.managementEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          True that. If you look at posts on lemmy.world though, it’s clear their users (which is like 50% of Lemmy) have zero clue they’re defederated ATM, and probably many that don’t know it’s compromised.

          • Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.mlEnglish
            02·
            1 year ago

            Federation and decentralization are not Web 2.0 concepts. Just like people who first learned what a tweet and a follow were and all the other concepts of those social media platforms, they’ll learn the new paradigm. Or they won’t and we’ll stick to 2.0 platforms.

      • Menachem@midwest.socialEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        idk, im surprised it took this long. there’s a huge variety of admin teams with varying degrees of security awareness and it’s been over a month since the first big influx of users started. it’ll happen again too and probably not before too long

        • Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          In the 3 years Hexbear has been around it has been attacked A LOT because obviously far right chuds have an interest in messing with leftists but has not to my knowledge had an admin breach. At one point image embeds were completely disabled because they were handing over data they shouldn’t though and risked exposing people to doxxing.

    • CMahaff@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      My concern is that configuring the site to automatically redirect users sounds like they have pretty large control over the site - the kind of control that I would assume is usually limited to users with root access on the server.

      Obviously hope nothing of value is lost and that there is a proper off-site backup of the content.

      Edit: See Max-P’s comment, it looks like the site redirection was accomplished in a way that IMO suggests they do NOT have full control over the site. We’ll obviously have to wait for the full debrief from the admins.

      • thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Yeah the “redirect somewhere else” attack definitely doesn’t necessarily require any particular control of the site. Usually it’s noticing that you can trick some text into being run as Javascript, instead of interpreted as text… And then you just stick in a cheeky little <notarealscript>window.location = "https://www.badsite.horse"</notarealscript> into that spot.

        Then every time that comment, username, (in this case apparently) custom emoji, etc. gets loaded, whoops, the code runs and off you go!

        So no control of the site is required at all.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
        0·
        1 year ago

        If it was just DNS that doesn’t mean too much. If it was just DNS it seems to be back up. It’s like changing the number in a phone book.