I’m not sure I’ve seen any evidence of it existing though, is it just a Boogeyman, or so something that happened a while back? An in joke of some sort?

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    It’s so interesting how for all your radical posturing you’re still stooges for American imperialism.

    Parroting the State Department is so revolutionary.

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      lol you really think I just parrot the US state department. Honestly this is another thing with tankies, they seem to be incapable of conceiving of geopolitics more complex than “arm of the USA” or “not arm of the USA”.

      The idea of only partial-alignment even among nominal allies, and complex conflicting geopolitical interests, and the idea of spectrums and complexity beyond “US=bad” “not US=good” is foreign to them, or even criticizing actions of organizations rather than just deciding XYZ organization is evil or good and retroactively justifying or opposing every action they take (let alone consider that an action could have mixed consequences or ethics, both positive or negative ;p).

      For example, I am still capable of criticising Ukraine’s actions (for example like using cluster bombs, even if last I saw Russia used them first I still am not in favour of them) and the propaganda they produce, or worrying about the effects of the significant debt on Ukrainians and their public services in the form of disaster capitalism, or also generally expressing my issue with States as a whole while still opposing brazen imperialism by Russia ^.^, or criticising the dehumanisation of Russian people in some of the conversations I’ve seen (especially the people who left Russia, when those are the people least likely to support the Russian Government’s actions and are often fleeing persecution themselves e.g. queer Russians).

      I just don’t usually specifically say these things because in practise the conversations in which it comes up are already horrifically derailed by apologia for Russia’s actions and enlightened-centrism, so expressing the nuance is completely useless because the people I’m responding to just hate anything they associate with “the West” (which itself is not necessarily a fully coherent concept) and usually massively whitewash the shit going on in Russia, both about Ukraine and also other things <.<

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        Unless this is in the context of an actual active political party none of what you wrote matters.

        Individuals can be weird and regarded. But you know what? I’d rather organise with someone who incorrectly believes that Stalin did no wrong but is otherwise committed to socialism than you censorious purity testing lot.

        I’m a random idiot from Serbia and you’re interrogating me as if I’m not posting on a niche Reddit clone but applying to be in the central committee of your party.

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      Learn a little dialectics so you can understand the concept of critical support, redfash

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        Oh you sussed me out inspector. I’m a total “redfash”.

        I don’t have to justify myself to you.

        And this whole thread, this swarm of bullshit over just saying the word “tankie” is tired and overused.

        Just makes you look totally off your rocker collectively.

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      Classic tankie whataboutism.

      “Uh you didn’t explicitly denounce the west in your comment so you are an imperial parrot!”

      Holy shit man