TL;DR: Apple dominates the US smartphone market, but EU regulations may offer Android a chance for resurgence by enforcing messaging interoperability and standardizing hardware features.

  • TJA!@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    This is so funny for someone from Europe. Nobody I know cares what phone you have.

    And everyone is using chat apps, mostly WhatsApp or signal, so everybody has the same great chatting experience.

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      1 year ago

      Said like someone who can’t afford an iPhone…

      Just kidding, I use Samsung myself. It’s crazy how easy it is to brainwash Americans into worshiping their corporate gods. Couple of good ads and they will die for their brand or choice.

      • Zron@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        My wife was bullied into getting an iPhone because of her colleagues, and they were buy one get one free, so now I have one too.

        It’s a phone, I’m happy

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          1 year ago

          People get so hostile over such things. I have an iPhone for business. I have a Pixel for my personal use. They’re alright. It depends on what you need. Still a smartphone enthusiast.

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          1 year ago

          Ugh, sounds like some of my coworkers and MacBooks. Then you discover that MacBooks are seriously crippled compared to the Linux machine you were using and you get told one of:

          1. “What do you mean by $feature? I’ve never heard of that.”
          2. “Why would you want to do that?”
          3. Run a badly performing Linux VM in a janky hypervisor to do that
          4. Pay $10 for this little 3rd party app to fix the problem

          Throw in some serious RSI pain from that tire fire of a keyboard and yeah, I have no idea why I switched.

          Edit: Work machine. No way I’d pay for Apple with my own money.

          • BoredomAddict@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            I’m stuck working on a MacBook too and it’s horrendous. I plug it into a monitor and use a good keyboard, but it’ll never be useful as a portable computer with that garbage keyboard

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              Using more than one monitor was the first “Why would you want to do that?” moment. Window management on Macs is awful but adding screens makes it way worse. Coming from i3 and sway, with rich hotkeys and fast, straightforward window manipulation, it felt like someone forgot to finish writing the OS. It seems most people use only the laptop screen or have a single external monitor as an auxiliary? They just genuinely didn’t know why or how you use multiple monitors.

              Tiling in macOS can be polyfilled with apps but there are tons of edge cases where it fails and the app’s hotkeys don’t flow well from the a handful of native keys, so it feels disjoint and bodged together. Also, if you “bump” a window, it’ll stay dislodged because it’s a poor mimicry of the real thing.

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                1 year ago

                What are these edge cases you are talking about? I been using Rectangle for many years and have no issues with multi-monitor setup. My company with over 2000+ devs use this app without any issues.

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                  1 year ago

                  Amethyst. Focusing on empty workspaces makes everything stop working. Certain window types (dialog popups, arguably that app shouldn’t be using popups) are “invisible” to it. System preferences is untouchable (fair) and shows up under all other active windows.

    • MostlyGibberish@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      It’s rough in the US. Most iPhone users will insist that iMessage is better and refuse to use anything else, and then whine when an android user is in a group chat and none of the features work.

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        1 year ago

        I have several group chats with both android & iPhone users. No one complains. The only place I hear about people complaining is the Internet, never anyone in the wild.

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      1 year ago

      Thank you. Based EU citizens genuinely carrying the US on this issue, and we are looking forward to removable batteries.

      • hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Some modern phones still have removable batteries, like my Motorola e5 play, its quite useful if the phone locks up bad, I can pop the battery out to restart it.

    • giant_smeeg@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      Yeah same here

      UK. I’ll get the odd joke from an iPhone user but we all use WhatsApp and no one really cares.

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      1 year ago

      Try to use something that’s something other than iOS or Android with Google services.

      (I’m daily driving deGoogled Android, I can live, but just can get sick of all the pressure around world is taking on not having Google Play Store)

    • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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      1 year ago

      That’s not universally true. There are some circles within the EU where you’re looked down upon if you don’t have an iPhone, and the stupid bubble shaming is still a thing. Very rich nordic countries, for example, have a huge iPhone majority.

      The only people who care are the vain people whose purpose in life is to be considered cool and interesting. That’s mostly teenagers, but also the “look at how rich I am” people (who are often just pretending) and other insufferable types.

      As a teenager it’ll be hard to find peers who aren’t obsessed with fitting in, but as an adult the people who complain about your phone are the ones you’d best stay clear from anyway. Bubble shaming is a nice and big red flag sfter high school.

      • Bronzie@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        The statement about a massive majority of iPhones in the Nordics is factually incorrect.
        iPhone has a slight lead at one of the biggest vendors Komplett, but that is without counting the remaining 10 % which is almost exclusively Android units.
        For clarity: Komplett operates in all the Nordic countries, but I would assume these numbers are for Norway, the richest of the bunch.

        It’s the same story at work where I am the responsible party for company phones: Pretty evenly distributed where some of the iPhones are chosen due to MLM solutions for those wishing certain solutions.

        I can only speak for my own age group in my personal life, but I would say Android has a quite big lead with young adults.
        Kids/teens might be a completely different story though.