If it’s acceptable for humans to exploit other animals for food, clothing, labor, entertainment or experiments because we’re more intelligent than them, would it be equally acceptable for a superintelligent alien race with 10x the mental capacity as humans to do the same to us?

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    1 year ago

    they have no concept of this

    They do know they’re not dying from horrific disease or consumed alive by predators.

    I’m not sure how both can be true.

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      1 year ago

      One is existential dread. The other is physical pain. I could probably have articulated that better.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah, but they probably don’t know they could be suffering from some disease if they never had it. Same goes about predators they’ve never encountered. Which isn’t to say they don’t have instincts but that’s not knowledge.

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          Yeah, but they probably don’t know they could be suffering from some disease if they never had it.

          Yes, but point is they’re living happy, blissfully content lives, not suffering from disease or predators.

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            1 year ago

            No, the (at least my) point is what they do and do not know. On everything else, we agree.

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          There’s a species of monkey too large for any local birds to predate that still has a prey response whenever they hear a hawk cry. There used to be, but is long since extinct, a hawk that was large enough and did predate these monkeys. There’s an evolutionary fear of predation these animals carry even though they aren’t prey anymore. I would think it would be the same for livestock. Similarly, I used to have egg laying hens and a rooster to protect them. None had ever been attacked by a predator, but they all knew to run inside when they saw a big shadow fly overhead, and the rooster knew to call out and puff himself up. What I mean to say is as far as their “happiness” goes, the input from instinct vs input via knowledge isn’t really important. If the question is “how does the animal FEEL” then what it KNOWS only informs the feeling just as instinct does.